[HN Gopher] PeerTube 6.3
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       PeerTube 6.3
        
       Author : jrepinc
       Score  : 166 points
       Date   : 2024-09-18 12:13 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (joinpeertube.org)
        
       | crtasm wrote:
       | Main bulletpoints
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       | * Separate audio and video streams for more flexibility
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       | * Browse subtitles in the transcription widget
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       | * Set up Youtube-dl for smoother imports
        
         | throwaway2046 wrote:
         | The first one is such a simple feature yet I find it crucial
         | for all music/podcast listeners. Not every video needs to be
         | watched.
        
       | black_puppydog wrote:
       | Peertube is another one of those projects I've been using more
       | and more over the last months. It's mostly a matter of being
       | finding interesting content over time.
       | 
       | Like many of the other open-source/libre alternatives to big
       | platforms, there are few lock-in (aka network) effects, and so
       | platform usage increase tends to be sloooow (aka organic).
       | Extremely unsexy for 10x unicorn VC investment I guess. But for a
       | user who wants to see interesting stuff it's great!
       | 
       | Before anyone interjects: yes, I'm aware that peertube won't work
       | for all creators. NotJustBikes has been very clear that it would
       | simply not be an option for them. Nebula (creator coop) seems to
       | be the best compromise for them for now.
       | 
       | Anyhow, nice list of new features, much appreciated! <3
        
         | pwdisswordfishz wrote:
         | Nebula is (most likely) not a coop.
         | 
         | https://medium.com/@cameron-paul/who-actually-owns-nebula-95...
        
           | black_puppydog wrote:
           | Interesting read. Although the "Update" section at the top
           | finishes thus:
           | 
           | > Ultimately the worst thing Nebula has done is provide some
           | misleading marketing spin. They're still an infinitely better
           | deal for creators than YouTube.
        
           | kimixa wrote:
           | I'm more interested in the financials and funding of the
           | service - it's "easy" to provide a better service if you're
           | losing money burning VC cash, but we know that'll never be
           | sustainable.
           | 
           | If they are better for the creators while _also_ being at
           | least cashflow-neutral, that 's a much bigger deal IMHO than
           | specifics on /who/ owns it.
        
         | shadowgovt wrote:
         | Do you have a link to NotJustBikes' thoughts on the topic? I
         | can think of a few reasons it wouldn't work for them but I'm
         | curious what they hit.
        
           | black_puppydog wrote:
           | Just a brief exchange here:
           | 
           | https://social.notjustbikes.com/@notjustbikes/11277626354576.
           | ..
           | 
           | But from that little, I'd _interpret_ (!!!) that
           | 
           | a) It's much less of a hassle to use nebula, and
           | 
           | b) economically and power-wise, they see nebula like a
           | creators' union.
           | 
           | It makes sense to me, I don't have grief with this. :)
        
         | bawolff wrote:
         | > Like many of the other open-source/libre alternatives to big
         | platforms, there are few lock-in (aka network) effects
         | 
         | I feel like the biggest problem is that this solves problems
         | that are different then the ones most people have with youtube.
         | 
         | Like from what i understand from the creator side, the creators
         | want a bigger piece of the ad revenue pie. Peertube isnt going
         | to help with that.
        
         | beeflet wrote:
         | >Like many of the other open-source/libre alternatives to big
         | platforms, there are few lock-in (aka network) effects, and so
         | platform usage increase tends to be sloooow (aka organic).
         | Extremely unsexy for 10x unicorn VC investment I guess. But for
         | a user who wants to see interesting stuff it's great!
         | 
         | I think you are missing the point: there is pretty much no
         | money to be made with peertube. It's just people using their
         | own bandwidth and time to host and make videos they want to
         | see.
         | 
         | >NotJustBikes has been very clear that it would simply not be
         | an option for them. Nebula (creator coop) seems to be the best
         | compromise for them for now.
         | 
         | Because there is no monetization angle to peertube aside from
         | donations. But whatever, youtube was great before monetization
         | so I figure there is no need for these kinds of filmmakers in
         | the long run.
        
           | black_puppydog wrote:
           | I think you misunderstood my comment. I'm very happy there's
           | no investment angle in peertube, big fan of the "product" as
           | it is.
           | 
           | And I understand full well why it's not an option for NJB.
           | For starters because they were very clear about it when they
           | wrote about it on mastodon. :D
        
         | bluGill wrote:
         | There are only a few creators so much better known that I will
         | follow them. Most of the time I don't care who shows me that
         | interesting content, so long as it is interesting good enough.
        
       | simlevesque wrote:
       | Framasoft are so cool. I've been following them for over a decade
       | (starting with Framablog) and they never ceased to impress me.
        
       | shadowgovt wrote:
       | How are people finding performance on PeerTube?
       | 
       | My biggest gripe with videos shared on Mastodon is that with so
       | many nodes hosted on personal infrastructure on the wrong side of
       | the consumer / producer gap in the way the modern web is laid out
       | (i.e. hosted over a consumer cable connection with asymmetric
       | upload / download bandwidth), trying to play a video often feels
       | like I've been zapped back into the late-'90s and am waiting for
       | an animated GIF to download off of USENET. I'm wondering if
       | people generally find videos on PeerTube come through faster.
        
         | beeflet wrote:
         | It's generally bad unless you have a peer or two. The only
         | instance i've used that's fast is videos.lukesmith.xyz but
         | thats probably because his fans self-host and mirror his videos
         | in webtorrent
        
       | apitman wrote:
       | I already have a Fediverse account on my own domain (via
       | masto.host, an excellent service). There's no way for me to reuse
       | that ActivityPub actor with PeerTube. The fact that making this
       | possible isn't a huge priority for the community gives me serious
       | reservations about building on AvtivityPub.
        
       | vander_elst wrote:
       | Are there any known legal actions taken for people sharing
       | copyrighted material? I know that in some countries e.g. Germany
       | it is dangerous to share via P2P as it's quite probable that some
       | law firm will sue you.
        
         | beeflet wrote:
         | If you are worried about legal action, you can buy a seedbox
         | anonymously in some 3rd world country to host your stuff.
         | People use those a lot for private trackers in the bittorrent
         | world, so I figure same applies to webtorrent.
         | 
         | Of course, you can just go without p2p and just do client-
         | server. That's a bit slower though, but you could do that over
         | tor or something.
         | 
         | In the long run, maybe you could figure out webtorrent over
         | i2p, I've heard p2p has had some success over i2p with
         | applications like i2psnark but IDK as i've never used it and
         | IDK how it would interact with WebRTC data streams (might need
         | some sort of proxy?)
        
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