[HN Gopher] Don't Take Advice from a Habsburg
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Don't Take Advice from a Habsburg
Author : lermontov
Score : 39 points
Date : 2024-09-10 05:25 UTC (3 days ago)
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| 082349872349872 wrote:
| > _given the counterrevolutionary legacy of the Habsburg dynasty_
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| Might the Habsburgs have weathered 28 June 1914 any better if
| they'd only been a little less Bourbon during 1848?
| bee_rider wrote:
| They seem basically comfortable now, which I guess is about as
| much as they could have hoped for in the era of liberal
| democracies. Whatever little details fell out of their court
| games, their hard power wasn't going to survive contact with
| the brutal grinding power of the giant industrial meritocracy
| behind a big moat.
| jowea wrote:
| Half of Europe is still monarchies, I don't think it was
| inevitable that they would lose all their thrones.
| bee_rider wrote:
| Decorative monarchs, sort of like American celebrities and
| influencers but without the acting chops.
| paleotrope wrote:
| I recently fell down a wikipedia rabbit hole and found the
| interesting story of Archduke Wilhelm of Austria.
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_Wilhelm_of_Austria
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| It was interesting to read about the diverse opinions of the
| different parts of the Hapsburg.
| PhasmaFelis wrote:
| "Unemployed landowner" is a pretty funny job status.
| jjeaff wrote:
| We have a lot of those today. We just call them Landlords.
| science4sail wrote:
| I sure hope that this modern-day Habsburg isn't promoting royal
| incest, otherwise you end up with fine specimens like this guy:
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain
| morkalork wrote:
| Was wondering if the article was about this guy, and it is!
|
| https://x.com/hop_scotch_/status/1664017656926687234?lang=en
| sickofparadox wrote:
| A true patron of the modern arts. He seems quite pleasant based
| on every interaction I've seen on twitter.
| itronitron wrote:
| I can recommend the book "Vanished Kingdoms: The History of Half-
| Forgotten Europe" for anyone wanting to inoculate themselves
| against survivorship bias.
| motohagiography wrote:
| Highly recommend any of the interviews or podcasts Eduard
| Habsburg has done. He seems very pleasant and reasonable. the
| author's tone is typical of what writers must do to get published
| these days, and it makes me wonder how some people would justify
| themselves without nobility or goodness as a foil.
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| take away what Habsburg recommends (family, religion, ownership,
| traditional values that built a dynasty, etc) and what are you
| left with as far as advice for a good life? middling status
| eating disorders and yoni sunning from what i can tell. it's good
| to take advice from people who win, and his family has been in
| that business for quite some time. it's probably worth a listen.
| 1-more wrote:
| Wait what? How has his family been winning for quite some time?
| throwaway48540 wrote:
| Well, they ruled for nearly 1000 years. The last 100 years
| might just be a fluke local minima and they still might
| recover and rule the galaxy...
| 1-more wrote:
| Classic problem. Gotta tweak the inputs in a big way to see
| if you can't get out of the trough. Perfect time for him to
| become something fun and interesting like maybe an unironic
| Posadist or one of the weirder sedevacantists.
| sickofparadox wrote:
| He's able to get by on his family name, which is a marked
| downgrade from their long rule over most of Europe, seems to
| have set him up a fairly comfortable and easy-going life.
| That sounds like winning to me! If my country needs a new
| ambassador to the Pope, I'll be first in line!
| 1-more wrote:
| Rare praise for cushy government jobs and low aspirations
| on HN. I'm here for it, don't get me wrong!
| currymj wrote:
| but nobody has to pick between "the worst manifestation of
| counterculture" and "traditionalist monarchism". you can have a
| whole range of normal political views instead.
| saagarjha wrote:
| I'm sorry middling status eating disorders and what
| throwawaymaths wrote:
| For men, testicle sunning (it's a bit of a meme)
| jeffreyrogers wrote:
| Here is a review by someone who liked the book:
| https://theworthyhouse.com/2024/08/14/the-habsburg-way-seven...
| tptacek wrote:
| So this guy is a character:
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| https://theworthyhouse.com/2021/06/17/the-foundationalist-ma...
|
| _Thus, the iron core of Foundationalism is that it opposes
| autonomic liberalism, and plans to destroy it as
| Foundationalism's first act. Only when the Enlightenment,
| political philosophy based on false claims of wholesale human
| emancipation from all unchosen bonds, is both gone and wholly
| discredited is a new thing possible, for if not, the serpent
| will whisper his sweet lies in men's ears forever, keeping them
| fixed in the dream become nightmare._
|
| It'd be interesting to work out what the differences are
| between the philosophy described by these "pillars" and
| according-to-Payne Fascism.
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