[HN Gopher] Remix's concurrent submissions are fundamentally flawed
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       Remix's concurrent submissions are fundamentally flawed
        
       Author : bo0tzz
       Score  : 72 points
       Date   : 2024-09-12 12:47 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | hyeomans wrote:
       | Jose Valim nails it: Remix's concurrent submissions have a
       | fundamental flaw. Without causal ordering, you're stuck with race
       | conditions and stale data, leading to poor UX. They need to
       | rethink their approach or embrace causal ordering to fix this.
        
       | pheeney wrote:
       | Is there a GitHub issue or discussion to subscribe for updates
       | from the Remix team on this topic?
        
       | aerox_zero wrote:
       | You can check the ChatGPT frontend source code that they do not
       | use Remix's actions (submission and revalidate mechanism). And
       | the fe does only one request to receive the data for chat. The
       | mechanism has benefits like working without javascript and issues
       | but you can avoid it if you dislike it. Did the author has
       | checked it's own theories about why ChatGpt may be slow before
       | making such arguments?
        
       | mtndew4brkfst wrote:
       | Jose seems to be far far far more enamored with ML than Elixir
       | these days. Burnout and boredom happens, I get it, but it's still
       | a bummer to see.
        
       | klysm wrote:
       | Embracing the platform can hurt when the platform sucks
        
         | azangru wrote:
         | Which part of the problem described in the post, would you say,
         | is caused by the platform?
        
       | hollerith wrote:
       | Wikipedia say, "Remix is an open source full stack web framework.
       | The software is designed for web applications built with front-
       | end JavaScript frameworks like React and Vue.js. . . . Remix has
       | been presented as an alternative to the popular React framework
       | Next.js."
        
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