[HN Gopher] Show HN: How much is 13B euros?
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Show HN: How much is 13B euros?
Hi, I made this page to contextualize 13 billion euros (or 14): an
amount due to Ireland in an EU Apple tax case and all over the
airwaves here this week. I use some pretty silly back-of-the-
envelope type calculations (the same ones also repeated a lot in
Ireland this week!). These calculations aren't especially
interesting, but at least they are present: you can see them, and
you can change them. If you do - change the 13 billion to 14
billion for example, related numbers will flash with updates. It's
an example using calculang[1]: a language for calculations, and an
example that focuses on a close connection between numbers that we
read or share and formulas/workings behind those numbers. I plan
to do a separate Show HN about calculang perhaps when I have more
docs and newer playground and gallery together, but Showing this
page in case it's interesting, & happy if there is feedback!
Declan [0] https://HowMuchIs13BillionEuros.com repo:
https://github.com/declann/HowMuchIs13BillionEuros.com [1]
https://calculang.dev
Author : dndn1
Score : 46 points
Date : 2024-09-11 21:52 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (howmuchis13billioneuros.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (howmuchis13billioneuros.com)
| bahador wrote:
| relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/980/
| IggleSniggle wrote:
| I love this one:
|
| https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/
| pornel wrote:
| This shows values per person in Ireland, but AFAIK the tax is
| from all European income, Apple has just channelled that through
| Irish subsidiary.
|
| Isle of Man is probably even richer in per capita money they've
| never seen.
| soperj wrote:
| If Apple got a 13 billion dollar fine every single month, it
| would take 22 years for it to exhaust their networth.
| brigadier132 wrote:
| This is a pointless statistic. I assume you mean market
| capitalization by net worth and if they were fined that much
| every month their market cap would immediately drop by 90%
| because their costs in paying fines would take away 90% of
| their profit.
| soperj wrote:
| Most statistics are pointless. This is just a representation
| of what 13 billion is.
| bee_rider wrote:
| Is that more than their monthly EU revenue? I guess they would
| just decide not to do business in the EU in that case.
| nottorp wrote:
| 1 km of freeway is 10-40 million so 325-1300 km of freeway.
|
| 1 km of high speed train line is 20-60 million so 216-650 km of
| high speed train
|
| Ireland's healthcare spending was 22.3 Bn in 2023, so 13 Bn
| covers 7 months of healthcare for the country.
|
| I see the OP included "In EUR 2.24Bn National Childrens
| Hospitals? 5.8 National Childrens Hospitals" so they're on the
| right track.
|
| We're talking about state spending here so it's pointless to
| compare it to the price of a tablet IMO.
| melenaboija wrote:
| 0,001% of all billionaires net worth.
| kman82 wrote:
| What's the point of this?
| arcbyte wrote:
| To manipulate your emotions and bypass your intelligence into
| adopting a specific world view.
| renjimen wrote:
| Takes one to know one?
|
| The point is to help folks understand how significant this
| fine is. Take from it what you will.
| mazugrin2 wrote:
| A lot of folks aren't great with numeracy, so I think it's
| good to use examples to help people understand how much tax
| Apple didn't have to pay that they themselves would have had
| to pay if they earned as much as Apple did.
| dgfitz wrote:
| > Hi, I made this page to contextualize 13 billion euros (or
| 14): an amount due to Ireland in an EU Apple tax case and all
| over the airwaves here this week. I use some pretty silly back-
| of-the-envelope type calculations
|
| It's in the post. You asked a shitty question. Don't be rude.
| rsynnott wrote:
| A metro system or two: https://www.thejournal.ie/metrolink-
| expensive-rail-undergrou...
| lofaszvanitt wrote:
| The obsession with numbers and money, the sure sign of evil.
| Everyone, quick, drink holy wasser, until it's too late :D.
| michelangelo wrote:
| I'd say more than EUR5.
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