[HN Gopher] My Homelab Setup
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       My Homelab Setup
        
       Author : ingve
       Score  : 55 points
       Date   : 2024-09-11 11:49 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
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       | candiddevmike wrote:
       | This reads like an ad for Unifi, but I don't see it called out as
       | a sponsored post. Would've been better if the post mentioned why
       | he chose that stack from a technical standpoint aside from
       | "sourcing issues" and "seeing the UI showcased at a friends".
        
         | A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
         | Yep, I use similar setup, but it hardly seems that unique or
         | interesting from technical perspective. It does feel like an
         | ad.
        
           | farslan wrote:
           | It's my personal blog post and I shared what I got, how I
           | configured my Rack, which settings I used for my WLANs, how I
           | use double WAN, the tools, and many other things. At the end,
           | I even shared how much I paid (I live in Turkey, there is no
           | sponsorship here, there is not even a Unifi store). So no,
           | it's not an ad, just my personal experience.
        
             | A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
             | Apologies. It is early and lack of coffee took the best of
             | me. I am not sure if I can delete original comment now, but
             | maybe this exchange will serve as mea culpa.
        
         | farslan wrote:
         | OP here. It's not an ad at all. There is a lot of stuff there,
         | not just the Rack. I even wrote about Wi-Fi optimization, the
         | tools I used, how much I paid (I mean if it was sponsored, why
         | would I pay for it).
        
           | mahin wrote:
           | Maybe you could elaborate here: why did you choose Unifi?
        
             | farslan wrote:
             | I wrote i, the beginning and at the end of my blog post. I
             | love brands that provide quality made products, not just on
             | hardware level, also on software level. I used TP-Link's
             | Omada and it's not even close. Yes there is a premium, but
             | you get for what you pay for.
             | 
             | Second, my cameras were dying, I had to replace it, and I
             | had to make a choice. A friend of my who use Unifi cameras
             | was very happy, so I thought that's a good reason to start
             | using Unifi.
             | 
             | Anyway, both of these, I wrote in my blog post.
        
           | disposition2 wrote:
           | Thanks for sharing! I've been running an EdgeMax router and
           | U6 router for some time without issues, but hope to upgrade
           | to a DreamMachine some day. The information you shared will
           | definitely help when that day comes.
        
         | phoronixrly wrote:
         | Yeah, zero makeshift raspberry pi rat's nests of wires,
         | assigned to do tasks that raspberry pis suck at (networking, or
         | storage, or wifi, or anything else for that matter). How can
         | you even call this a home lab by HN's standards...
        
         | rasse wrote:
         | Judging by the Vitsoe shelving and the Lego Porsche 911, I'd
         | guess aesthetics played a role in the purchase decision.
         | 
         | From a strictly subjective and non-technical point of view,
         | aesthetics is one of Ubiquiti's merits.
        
         | senectus1 wrote:
         | no shit, I lol'ed at the "tool that lets you judge the strength
         | of your wifi"
         | 
         | thats pure snake oil.
        
       | mfwit wrote:
       | This reads far more like 'My Home Network Setup' than 'My Homelab
       | Setup'.
        
         | ThatMedicIsASpy wrote:
         | Yeah there isn't anything about the Homelab really.
        
           | daghamm wrote:
           | Not to put down Arslans work, but for me the best part of
           | homelab is doing much with very little resources and this
           | post is kinda opposite.
        
       | nelsonic wrote:
       | "I spent around ~$5750 for all my devices and accessories. This
       | includes 7 APs, 6 PoE cameras, and several switches. I rebuilt it
       | from scratch, and my house is big."
       | 
       | I wonder how many people this is applicable to... We have a
       | similar setup but for a co-living house with 24 people.
       | 
       | It _can_ read like an Ad for Unifi but, in our experience no
       | other brand comes close in terms of hardware+software quality,
       | reliability and no leaking data.
        
         | farslan wrote:
         | OP. Bummer that the article gave that impression. I'm just a
         | passionate person, if you read my blog and the other articles,
         | people would see every single of my blog post is like that. I
         | just like to shoot nice photos and write about my experience,
         | nicely.
        
           | asalahli wrote:
           | The photos are indeed beautiful
        
         | candiddevmike wrote:
         | > no leaking data
         | 
         | Ubiquity collects MAC addresses (https://help.ui.com/hc/en-
         | us/articles/360042384093-Analytics...) and have had data
         | breaches in the past
         | (https://www.twingate.com/blog/tips/ubiquiti-data-breach)
        
           | Mashimo wrote:
           | Mhh, I'm not so sure I would count that breach against them.
           | It was an inside job from an employee who wanted to export
           | money. I would guess most companies fail at that threat
           | vector.
           | 
           | Thought that link made me curious, why did UI have peoples
           | social security numbers? (I'm not American)
        
             | bestham wrote:
             | IMO this should have been included in their threat model.
             | The only way to exclude yourself from insider threats is if
             | insiders cannot possibly become threats.
        
         | sponaugle wrote:
         | I like it. I use Ubiquiti gear for most of my homelab and home
         | networking stuff with the exception of the 40g and 100g stuff.
         | It is both easy to use and provision as well as easy to
         | upgrade... and of course it works.
         | 
         | Sometimes people do really ridiculous stuff with their
         | homelabs, like this guy:
         | https://youtu.be/-b3t37SIyBs?si=t_h49fv594dChYf9
         | 
         | Tongue-in-cheek on that of course. ;)
        
       | Mashimo wrote:
       | Do you really need 2 APs per floor?
       | 
       | Your internet is only 50 mbit/s any way.
        
         | farslan wrote:
         | Don't think APs are only about the internet speed. I have a
         | Synology NAS, so streaming and copying files between devices
         | (wirelessly) is also important.
        
           | Mashimo wrote:
           | What is the speed with just one AP per floor?
        
             | farslan wrote:
             | With my iPad Pro (which has WiFi 7), connected to the 6GHz
             | band, I'm able to get speeds of 950 Mbps. However I also
             | didn't optimized for Gigabit speeds, it can be maybe
             | better.
        
               | radicality wrote:
               | Does it? I have newest iPad (m4 pro 13inch) and afaik
               | it's Wifi6E.
               | 
               | The just announced iPhone16 does seem to have WiFi 7
               | though. I'm also on UniFi gear and also why I've been
               | deferring upgrading to any of the wifi7 APs since none of
               | my devices have it yet.
        
               | farslan wrote:
               | You're right. I thought it had because I can use the 6GHz
               | band. But WiFi6e also supports 6GHz and I can pull down
               | around 950 Mbps. For me, I was in the process of getting
               | APs, and it was just time to use the latest one,
               | otherwise I had to upgrade the APs again in the future.
        
         | szszrk wrote:
         | What about latency, disconnects, internal traffic, ...
         | different types of construction materials?
         | 
         | Traffic to the internet is not everything. What about self
         | hosting, sharing files between devices, or simply pushing
         | documents to the printer...?
         | 
         | I have a small flat, but it has an L shape, reinforced concrete
         | on many walls, an elevator right next to one of them, and so
         | on. With typical setup here ("router next to tv") I would have
         | no WiFi signal in one room at all. Regardless if it's 2.4/5/6.
         | And it's just "a few meters". So two AP's with low signal
         | strength are infinitely better.
        
         | sebazzz wrote:
         | I live in a three story home, a typical European row house (so
         | completely built from concrete, with wooden doors), and have my
         | Unifi Dream Machine in my utility closet where the electrical
         | board and my home server is, and my a Unifi U6 access point at
         | the top of the top most stairs. It is completely sufficient for
         | 30 wireless clients.
        
       | viiralvx wrote:
       | This is a really dope setup! Honestly, it sucks that your Wi-Fi
       | is only 50 mb/s, but hopefully that gets an upgrade soon!
        
         | farslan wrote:
         | My ISP speed is 50 mb/s, not my Wi-FI speed (that can be
         | larger). And thank you, I'm waiting to get Fiber soon :)
        
       | hi-v-rocknroll wrote:
       | Pricey appliance-oriented development. And no fiber, which is
       | critical for internet to home primary switch. And at least go
       | with 10 GbE PoE+ for WiFi 7 APs. Non-cloud DVR security cameras
       | are fine with ordinary PoE and 1 GbE (because cloud only WiFi
       | cameras are inherently insecure).
       | 
       | I can haz a Unifi VM that works just fine running under VMware
       | ESXi 7 (old) for free, along with a Samba and NFS NAS, Plex,
       | PlexAmp, Transmission (with Deluge as a backup), RustDesk (on
       | Docker), Docker and K8s boxes, and whatever else I want to throw
       | at it. Those all run on a 512 GiB 96 thread box attached to a SAS
       | 3 4U JBOD with 45 HDDs with PCIe passthrough to the NAS VM. 2
       | UPSes with 2 2U expander battery packs each; I probably should
       | move to some sort of LiFePO4 UPS at some point.
       | 
       | Router is 10 GbE DECISO 740 OPNsense with Wireguard and IPv4/6
       | dual stack everywhere. Fast, configurable, and works.
       | 
       | Also have 2 dedicated 7950X3D boxes with 2x 100 GbE each for
       | network load testing and development. 400 GbE maybe soon.
        
         | caeril wrote:
         | > And no fiber, which is critical for internet to home primary
         | switch
         | 
         | Optical isolation isn't the only way to protect equipment.
        
           | hi-v-rocknroll wrote:
           | That's not the point. The point is fast links 10-100 GbE.
        
       | chrisml wrote:
       | Nice article but avoid publishing home layouts, video camera
       | locations and networking internals for security reasons.
        
       | amatecha wrote:
       | Pretty curious, what was the problem with Omada, if any? It seems
       | like a great system and I'm wondering if there are any particular
       | shortcomings in contrast with other similar offerings on the
       | market... Personally I'm looking to do a major home networking
       | upgrade and Omada has come up pretty high on the list for having
       | easily-managed SDN.
        
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