[HN Gopher] Microui+fenster=Small GUI
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Microui+fenster=Small GUI
Author : surprisetalk
Score : 188 points
Date : 2024-09-08 00:55 UTC (22 hours ago)
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| ezekielmudd wrote:
| I like it! Bravo!
| rwbt wrote:
| It uses Microui lib written by rxi. Checkout other single header
| only C libs written by rxi[0]. They're really elegant C in my
| view. [0] - https://github.com/rxi
| 01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote:
| Oh I knew him from ludum dare
| zamadatix wrote:
| This is great, particular the fenster side which is truly about
| as "If you remember Borland BGI or drawing things in QBASIC or
| INT 10h- you know what I mean" as I've ever seen for cross
| platform C.
|
| Microui seems very cool as well but not in a "the comments
| section is very often longer than this code" sense. Still, I'll
| definitely be poking around with this a bit more for the novelty.
| strlenf wrote:
| You probably want to use simd-optimized pixman[1] for rendering
| rectangles and glyphs. There is also luigi[2] which draws without
| opengl and written in C.
|
| [1] https://github.com/freedesktop/pixman [2]
| https://github.com/nakst/luigi
| freeCandy wrote:
| the pixman link isn't working
| sp1rit wrote:
| Upstream is https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pixman/pixman
| rys wrote:
| https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pixman/pixman
| zem wrote:
| love it :) next step, some tiny scripting language bindings? s7
| would fit in well e.g.
| https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/s7.html
| HexDecOctBin wrote:
| Does s7 allows for REPL-driven programming? That's the only
| thing missing from the Lua VM that can't be implemented as a
| library. An embedded Lisp that supports a true REPL would be a
| god-send.
| danbreuer wrote:
| Yes, it seems to be possible to use it in Emacs like any
| other Scheme [0].
|
| Not sure how these facilities compare to Slime + Common Lisp.
|
| [0]: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/s7.html#repl
| npsimons wrote:
| > An embedded Lisp that supports a true REPL would be a god-
| send.
|
| I might be misunderstanding your requirements; "embedded" can
| mean so many things these days. But what do you think of ECL
| (https://ecl.common-lisp.dev/main.html)?
| tekknolagi wrote:
| Or PocketPy Or fe
| jll29 wrote:
| Such boilerfree graphics is important, for example for
| educational purpose where you don't want to be distracted by
| having to explain what an "allocator" or a "handle" are.
|
| Also, to keep the core drawing code short so that it can be fully
| listed on a blog post or in a print magazine.
|
| What I liked is is a self-sufficient set of files that compile
| immediately without any dependency issues (even on the Mac).
| There should be more work like that:
|
| - making it even easier to use
|
| - making it simpler and simpler
|
| - making it faster
|
| - making the library footprint smaller
|
| Thanks!
| a1o wrote:
| This is great for some things, is there something small like
| fenster but written in C?
|
| Or is it just the header there? I see there is both a Cpp and a
| Go file there too, so I am a bit unsure which does what.
| tekknolagi wrote:
| Fenster is written in C and has an optional C++ wrapper (it's
| all in the file)
| mark_l_watson wrote:
| Very cool project. I followed some link's to Max's personal web
| site: a renaissance man!
|
| Many decades ago when I worked on a C++ team we hired very smart
| but not C++ guru employees. I wrote a portable graphics library
| so team members could write X11 apps without learning details
| that domain experts really didn't need to learn. With my
| company's permission, I rewrote that code on my own time and
| added support for Mac, and Windows. That code became the two
| editions of my Portable GUIs with C++ books for McGraw-Hill.
|
| Sorry to rant so much off topic, but mostly being retired now I
| have been thinking of getting back into C++ (I usually use Lisp
| languages and Python now). I think this very cool project will be
| the start of a few very fun days of playing with C++ again.
| tomcam wrote:
| I loved your books. Very clearly written with complete, usable
| examples. Models of their kind. I remember very well going into
| Barnes & Noble and sitting there with the books for a couple of
| hours before buying them, because it was on my own nickel and
| books have never been cheap.
| Esras wrote:
| Cool project! Graphics programming is _hard_ and anything to make
| it easier is welcome.
|
| Maybe a dumb question, but why not Dear ImGui
| (https://github.com/ocornut/imgui). "It's way too big and
| complex" is a completely reasonable answer, but I found it
| fantastic for debug menus, and there are a few applications that
| have used it as their _main_ GUI (Ship of Harkinian as an
| example).
|
| (Edit for fixing the name of the project)
| tekknolagi wrote:
| I originally wanted to port dear imgui to fenster but that
| looked difficult and microui already had a _very_
| straightforward little bytecode to implement
| icar wrote:
| I wonder if they could add Wayland...
| tekknolagi wrote:
| Probably yes, but it wouldn't be upstreamable into fenster. A
| Wayland impl would at least double the size. I'm vaguely
| looking into it anyway. Feel free to file an issue
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