[HN Gopher] Clojure 1.12.0 is now available
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       Clojure 1.12.0 is now available
        
       Author : msolli
       Score  : 70 points
       Date   : 2024-09-05 20:12 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (clojure.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (clojure.org)
        
       | tgerdin wrote:
       | Looks like a pretty solid release, very happy that Clojure is
       | still going strong!
        
         | haolez wrote:
         | Is it going strong? I'm evaluating it for a new project. I'm
         | considering it together with Clara[0]. However, it does give a
         | vibe that it's not as mainstream as it was before and that the
         | ecosystem is more sparse than what is once was.
         | 
         | I'm not trying to troll. I want to choose it. It seems like a
         | good engineering decision to me, but if it's nosediving in
         | popularity and contributors, this might bite me back in the
         | near future.
         | 
         | [0] https://www.clara-rules.org/
        
           | hlship wrote:
           | Clojure's slow, deliberate development pace confuses people.
           | The core team takes backwards compatibility very seriously.
           | What you see with each new Clojure release is generally
           | improved performance, better Java interop, and a smattering
           | of new features. This is doubly true for 1.12 which is doing
           | quite a bit of invisible work to make interop considerably
           | better.
           | 
           | So what you don't see is a constant flux of "innovation"
           | followed by a community having to adapt to those innovations.
           | People pull Clojure examples out of books that are 12 or more
           | years old and they still run.
           | 
           | I think there's some very exciting things in the Clojure
           | space, such as Clerk (https://github.com/nextjournal/clerk)
           | for live notebooks, and Babashka
           | (https://github.com/borkdude/babashka) for amazing (and
           | amazingly fast) scripting.
        
           | Barrin92 wrote:
           | From the last view developer surveys I've paid attention to
           | it didn't seem like Clojure was growing much but it's
           | definitely still large enough of an ecosystem to be a valid
           | choice. So, depends on your definition of 'going strong'. On
           | its merits it's definitely still a great choice, I never
           | really thought of it as particularly mainstream.
        
       | jdminhbg wrote:
       | Such a pleasure to get a boatload of new features and all my code
       | just runs on it because of the hard work dedicated to avoid
       | breaking changes.
        
       | diggan wrote:
       | Lovely to see add-libs and sync-deps, aren't many (any?) reasons
       | to close down a session at all now.
       | 
       | This release feels like it had a very different scope from
       | previous releases, contains a lot of stuff, which is exciting to
       | see! But I hope it doesn't end up like a hairball a few releases
       | down from increase of pace or something.
        
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