[HN Gopher] Hacker trap: Fake OnlyFans tool backstabs cybercrimi...
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Hacker trap: Fake OnlyFans tool backstabs cybercriminals, steals
passwords
Author : nazgulsenpai
Score : 50 points
Date : 2024-09-05 18:12 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.bleepingcomputer.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.bleepingcomputer.com)
| namanyayg wrote:
| This is quite genius.
|
| A great example of cybercrime tools being used for good
|
| Reminds me of how Russian malware never runs if it detects the PC
| having Russian as the default language
| sandworm101 wrote:
| I wouldnt call it good. This is criminals stealing from other
| criminals, which is still crime. Just as how gangland wars can
| impact innocent bystanders, these nested layers of illegality
| and theft of information can cause harm to others.
| fsckboy wrote:
| how often does somebody get prosecuted for stealing from
| another criminal?
| rad_gruchalski wrote:
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_Uni
| t...
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| https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-
| po...
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| Not often enough, apparently. Not always "criminals". Just
| suspects...
| sa-code wrote:
| How many crimes does one have to commit before they "are a
| criminal"? If someone broke a law, but the law was later
| amended so the act is now legal, are they still a criminal?
| (E.g. cannabis)
| sandworm101 wrote:
| Yes. A town raising a speed limit on a road doesn't mean
| everyone who ever got a ticket previous to the change
| wasn't speeding. That's why it takes special laws and
| acts by executive authorities to take retroactive action,
| if the deem doing so a good idea.
| ARandomerDude wrote:
| This is a cute rhetorical trick, but if you can't see
| that some people are criminals and some are not, then you
| are blind.
| jeroenhd wrote:
| People do get killed quite often in cases of mistaken
| identity. Not by the police, usually, but criminal gang
| wars are not without innocent victims.
|
| Criminals do get charged with theft from other criminals.
| The only benefit to stealing from criminals is that they
| won't go to the police, but that doesn't mean they won't
| report you once they get caught. They may even get out if
| jail earlier by coming clean and listing every criminal
| they've interacted with.
| sandworm101 wrote:
| Possession of stolen goods. Possession of cocaine. It
| doesn't matter where you got it. Criminals also still have
| property rights. Stealing a car from Bernie Madoff is still
| stealing a car.
| userbinator wrote:
| We used to call those who would fall for these tricks "script
| kiddies", as all they know about how to "hack" is to blindly run
| things others have made.
| rmellow wrote:
| "Don't even talk to me if your computer doesn't have homemade
| transistors".
|
| While I get the difference between creators vs users, in the
| end we're all users in someone else's perspective.
|
| Maybe you've built your own tools, but that's just applying
| someone else's library.
|
| Maybe you've built your own library, but that's just using
| someone else's OS and IDE.
|
| Maybe you've built your own OS, but you're still just applying
| a language that an actually smart person developed.
|
| Maybe you've developed your own language, but that's just an
| abstraction of actual hardware activity, which the actual
| geniuses who tamed silicon built.
|
| Maybe you've built your own hardware, but you're really just
| applying physical and chemical discoveries that actual smart
| humans made.
|
| Maybe you've even discovered physical and chemical discoveries
| yourself! But that's nothing, you're just observing the laws of
| nature.
|
| Maybe you've created laws of nature yourself, but you're
| nothing next to your mother, who gave birth to a god.
| jvanderbot wrote:
| I'm being generous and interpreting this as humor.
|
| Otherwise, we can't disregard that there's a spectrum here,
| and somehow move the "goalpost of lol" all the way to the
| extreme end. You get to be smug at anyone who is on the "more
| naive" side of you on this spectrum.
|
| Sounds like GP is just remembering and recalling the days
| when they were more sophisticated than most.
| lo_zamoyski wrote:
| "Maybe you've developed your own language, but that's just an
| abstraction of actual hardware activity, which the actual
| geniuses who tamed silicon built."
|
| Tangent: the language isn't an abstraction of the hardware.
| Hardware has _nothing_ to do with programming languages per
| se. This is why I dislike the term "low-level language", as
| if this were some kind of computational atomism. There is no
| inherent relationship between assembly and C++, for example.
| C++ is a language, full stop. But if we want to _simulate_ a
| language on a particular piece of hardware, we must simulate
| it using the language of the hardware. We must translate it
| into the language of the hardware. That is, after all, what a
| compiler is: a translator.
| PontifexMinimus wrote:
| > the language isn't an abstraction of the hardware
|
| Programming languages were designed to do useful stuff.
| They can't do this without hardware. There are always
| concerns of practicality.
|
| > as if this were some kind of computational atomism
|
| NAND gates are computationally atomic, IMO, since to go a
| level below them you get to the level of physical processes
| (e.g. electronics) that implement them.
| Etheryte wrote:
| This tries hard to sound deep, but it's nonsense. There's a
| very big difference between someone who can just swing a
| hammer and a carpenter. Saying that the two are the same
| because they both use a tool someone else made is absurd.
| AStonesThrow wrote:
| "Script kiddie" always referred more to the level of
| expertise and knowledge that these folks had, more so than
| any elitist DIY ethic.
|
| A script kiddie would only know enough to be dangerous, how
| to download and run the prepackaged kit, and wouldn't
| understand how/why it works or fails.
|
| Whereas a seasoned cracker may apply the same tools in a
| systematic way that's informed by knowledge of the underlying
| concepts, and how to make the most out of options, and adapt
| to particular targets.
| vsuperpower2021 wrote:
| This is the worst thing I've ever read. I'm not going to read
| any more shit on this site.
| mschuster91 wrote:
| Ah, a classic. I 'member this kind of stuff from decades ago
| already, and of course also with cheat tools, keygens and
| whatnot. No chance I'd run a keygen outside of a VM, and for good
| reasons.
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