[HN Gopher] California companies wrote their own gig worker law....
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California companies wrote their own gig worker law. Now no one is
enforcing it
Author : agiacalone
Score : 24 points
Date : 2024-09-04 19:54 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| yieldcrv wrote:
| AB5 is the issue and creature of the legislature, Prop 22 is a
| patch by unrelated corporate parties seeking an exemption who got
| citizens to pass it
|
| Its a confusing distortion and mess to a labor market that really
| needs a third categorization
|
| Classifying independent contractors as employees just so you can
| extend corporate health insurance to them is lazy and
| patronizing, not to rehash an old debate but not everyone is a
| victim or aspires to be an employee.
|
| and now this mess about how to enforce labor violations on Prop
| 22 gig workers?
|
| repeal AB5 in its entirety and come up with something more
| holistic
| bsder wrote:
| Prop 22 was passed by Lyft and Uber blackmailing a whole bunch
| of people at the height of Covid whose only income at the time
| was ridesharing. Those people are now gone, ridesharing is the
| race to the bottom that everybody predicted, but now we're
| stuck with a shitty proposition.
|
| And what you are quite conveniently omitting is that AB5 was a
| reaction to a _court case_ (and it wasn 't even about
| ridesharing!) that sent people scrambling. AB5 wasn't great,
| but it would have been amended and updated because California
| actually has a functional legislature. Instead, Prop 22 froze
| the process in amber and now everybody gets the garbage
| fallout.
|
| Blast Prop 22 into atoms, and AB5 can be adjusted properly.
|
| In addition, I got _tons_ of political crap pushed to my phone
| about Prop 22 by the apps and Uber and Lyft should have been
| fined through the nose for doing so.
|
| But, hey, as long as you have a couple billion in cash, you get
| to make your own laws. Ain't "disruption" grand?
| starik36 wrote:
| > California actually has a functional legislature
|
| You must be new here. There are homeless literally everywhere
| in LA and somehow "California actually has a functional
| legislature". A small example of dysfunction. You are living
| in a fantasy world.
|
| AB5 was a massively blunt tool that overreached and messed
| with businesses and individuals that had zero to do with ride
| sharing. Prop 22 undid small portion of it, where in reality,
| the law needs to be repealed in its entirety and rethought
| with an eye to future and potential unintended fallout.
| badprose wrote:
| I don't see how having homeless people everywhere in LA and
| SF is related to whether they have a functional
| legislature. Is there some law that California could pass
| to solve homelessness and they're just too dysfunctional to
| do so?
| roughly wrote:
| The gig work companies spent $200M pushing Prop 22, if you were
| curious how profitable that business model has been and how much
| money isn't making its way to the people who aren't their
| employees.
| https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_22,_App-Based...
|
| If anyone had any notion at all that any part of Prop 22 was
| going to work out for the workers, all I can say is keep that
| starry-eyed naivety, because the world's a cold place and we
| could use some optimists, I guess.
| deepsun wrote:
| I remember talking to a Lyft driver who was persuaded that being
| an employee means working fixed shifts.
|
| Nice job by Uber/Lyft to plant that idea in people's minds!
|
| https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/flexibleschedule...
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