[HN Gopher] Canva says its new AI features justify raising subsc...
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Canva says its new AI features justify raising subscription prices
by 300%
Author : doener
Score : 24 points
Date : 2024-09-04 15:02 UTC (8 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (fortune.com)
| fsndz wrote:
| I wish them good luck with it haha, especially given the
| reliability issues. why would anyone want to 300% given the
| current reliability challenges ? (https://www.lycee.ai/blog/ai-
| reliability-challenge)
| lagniappe wrote:
| I'm not saying it's right, but... The people making spending
| decisions are vastly disconnected in most cases from the people
| who content with reliability issues.
| darby_nine wrote:
| I really hate how disconnected subscription prices are from
| actual value delivered. Imagine a world where you're billed
| proportional to usage! What a halcyon dream.
| addicted wrote:
| Metering in software is usually terrible.
|
| It discourages experimentation and use. It also adds
| significant mental overhead when it comes to using something.
| One can imagine this mental overhead when using Canva or
| Photoshop. But if evrry app was like that the complexity would
| rise exponentially.
|
| Metering leads to reaching local optimal states at best, and
| makes it very difficult to reach a global optimal state.
|
| There is very little marginal cost when software is concerned
| so metering isn't even reflective of the costs of using a
| product.
|
| However, this isn't currently true of AI. AI has significant
| marginal costs so metering probably better aligns with the
| expenses, but metering is so bad for other reasons that most
| companies are choosing to forgo the "reflective of costs"
| benefit and just charge flat prices anyways.
| darby_nine wrote:
| > There is very little marginal cost when software is
| concerned so metering isn't even reflective of the costs of
| using a product.
|
| Well that's my point, isn't it? Neither are subscriptions.
| The transaction is presented as for a service, but you're
| really paying for a workforce that might not be providing any
| marginal value to you at all.
|
| > Metering leads to reaching local optimal states at best,
| and makes it very difficult to reach a global optimal state.
|
| I don't see how subscriptions are more likely to get us
| there. Certainly closed-source software (or paying for access
| to a closed-source service) makes it much harder to find
| globally optimal states--we're reinventing the wheel over and
| over and over again, which is tremendously inefficient and
| presumably would be a problem you'd expect market
| forces/technological progression to correct.
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| latexr wrote:
| > Imagine a world where you're billed proportional to usage!
|
| I see a world of even more surveillance. One where people
| frequently install uBlock-like tools to stop the counting and
| apps install invasive "cheat prevention" DRM mechanisms like
| some AAA games. A world where someone is billed astronomical
| amounts because they forgot to close an app, where people are
| constantly nervous the whole time they use a tool, and
| unscrupulous companies make programs run just a bit slower to
| rake in more money.
|
| I don't like subscriptions either, but that doesn't sound like
| the solution to me.
| yieldcrv wrote:
| No moat
| pedalpete wrote:
| Tell that to all the companies that have tried to compete with
| Canva and failed.
|
| Canva's game it to get all your company assets managed on
| Canva. Then try shifting away.
| lancewiggs wrote:
| If that's the case then (and this is for any company) give
| customers the option of a lower price than today's without the
| (generally invasive and poor) AI experiences.
| stevenicr wrote:
| Article is block-subscribe-walled for me.. so not reading.
|
| However I have avoided signing up for the pro version of canva
| mainly because it's a subscription, this at $10 / mth
|
| I use it, and I recommend it, I like it.
|
| I've watched videos showing some of the power of some of the AI
| things, I have told others of some of the use cases like smart
| object replace.
|
| However if they go to $30 / mth I'll never go to the pro version.
|
| As much as I hate 'credits' and 'token usage limits' because it's
| like trying to figure how many games you can play at a
| davenBusters with $40..
|
| I would prefer a plan that gave a limit of usage and stayed at
| $10 / month.
|
| I've even been looking at ways of doing some automated things
| with canva, but can't imagine paying $30 a month or more as a
| subscription service for canva or adobe or anything similar.
|
| Hearing this increase possibility makes me appreciate the options
| that cyberlink and https://skylum.com/luminar/pricing have - as
| much as I dislike limited use addons and such, it's better than
| everyone being forced into a bigger data pie they don't need, and
| will likely get stuck into a never-to-end subscription for many
| people and businesses.
|
| Stuff like this makes me glad that, gulp, 'rocket money app' is
| doing a find and auto remove your wasted subscriptions thing.
|
| when the friends you like make you gravitate to liking your
| enemies because they are more friendly to your lifestyle ways.
| meh.
| joenot443 wrote:
| https://archive.is/9V4Bh
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