[HN Gopher] Fears children born during lockdown are years behind...
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Fears children born during lockdown are years behind as they start
at school
Author : rntn
Score : 25 points
Date : 2024-09-02 20:57 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.theguardian.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.theguardian.com)
| flobosg wrote:
| Unedited title: _'They're about two years behind': fears for
| children born during lockdown as they start at school_
| elevatedastalt wrote:
| I mean they can at worst be only 4 years behind
| itronitron wrote:
| >> "Ideally babies need to be exposed to many different people
| who talk to them, and have a broad range of experiences,"
|
| What a trash article.
| sameoldtune wrote:
| What do you find problematic with that phrase?
| rolandr wrote:
| I'm not seeing how you are getting there from that quote. Seems
| like one of the least controversial sentences in the article.
| Maybe it would be better to say "should" instead of "need?" In
| any event the overall point is pretty sound.
|
| Even with dogs, if they are not well socialized when younger,
| they end up having problems interacting well/appropriately with
| new dogs and people.
| rich_sasha wrote:
| It is all blamed on lockdowns, and I'm sure they had an effect.
| Speech or hearing issues went undiagnosed and untreated, for
| example.
|
| But surely talking to any adult would do most of the job. All
| these children brought up by one foreign-speaking parent who end
| up speaking that language fluently show that. Were these
| "lockdown children" just left on their own? Or is it indicative
| that their parents don't talk to them, and their only language
| learning happened outside of home?
| petermcneeley wrote:
| I am sure many of these children got expose to language outside
| of the home; Youtube.
| Thegn wrote:
| I don't have a source now, but a while ago (pre-pandemic) I
| saw a study that showed babies don't pick up basic language
| structures very well at all from videos for whatever reason.
| yarg wrote:
| Talking with (or listening to) adults is the primary way that
| children learn to speak - but that's far from the only thing
| that these children have been deprived of.
|
| The social understanding that children develop by playing with
| other children is vital as well, and hanging out with other
| dirty little snot-faced kids is a hugely important part of
| developing a robust immune system.
| newman314 wrote:
| Immunity debt is simply not a thing. Just like the notion
| that a few weeks of masking (at most) somehow gave rise to
| long term speech issues. [1][2]
|
| [1] https://www.salon.com/2022/12/04/does-your-immune-system-
| nee...
|
| [2] https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2557:_Immunity
| skybrian wrote:
| This paragraph suggests that some children are affected more
| than others:
|
| > Her charity has found 1.9 million children in the UK - one in
| five - are struggling with speech and language. The problem had
| already been building before the pandemic, especially in
| disadvantaged areas.
| Ferret7446 wrote:
| Socializing among children is crucial for development and
| cannot be substituted (at least entirely) with adult
| interaction. It's one of the main problems for homeschooled
| children.
|
| Not to mention their parents were most likely working from home
| and not free to play with their kids most of the time.
| SkyPuncher wrote:
| We moved states and transitioned our old from a nanny to day
| care. Literally, all of her developmental milestones exploded
| once she was around other kids.
|
| There's absolutely no substitute for kids seeing kids their
| age do things.
| bsder wrote:
| It's almost certainly divided by socioeconomic status.
|
| I know a few folks whose children went through this. They
| figured out that they should get their children together in
| super tiny groups (less than 6 but generally no more than 4)
| with a single teacher. They tried schooling at home but the
| "mode switch" was too difficult for their young children to
| understand.
|
| Guess what? Those children are now _so far ahead_ of their
| peers it is ridiculous.
|
| Education is almost always dependent upon resource.
| bamboozled wrote:
| Our friends child was born on a farm, pretty isolated during
| covid, he is 4 and honestly at about a 2 year olds level of
| understanding and social ability.
| alanbernstein wrote:
| I would think the kids who should have started kindergarten in
| 2020 would be the most affected.
| dsr_ wrote:
| Everyone in US public schooling from 2020 through 2023, really.
| Ferret7446 wrote:
| Anecdotally, this affected everyone, all the way up through
| college (though the "damage" of the college students is less
| permanent since it didn't affect brain development as much).
| tester89 wrote:
| Is the population _diagnosed_ with autism about to explode in a
| decade?
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