[HN Gopher] 'Mindblowing' fake AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D chip investig...
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       'Mindblowing' fake AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D chip investigated - buyers
       beware
        
       Author : doener
       Score  : 22 points
       Date   : 2024-09-01 20:31 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.tomshardware.com)
        
       | alecsm wrote:
       | I expected a real working clone of the Ryzen chip. Calling it
       | mindblowing is a bit exaggerate since it's basically a piece of
       | metal/plastic with no electronics in it.
        
         | fluoridation wrote:
         | It is very unusual that someone would go to this much effort
         | instead of using a real dead CPU or re-lasering a lower spec
         | one.
        
           | Animats wrote:
           | Yes. Repeat business will be zero. The seller can't sell very
           | many before they have to shut down and go into hiding. Yet it
           | takes a lot of cost and effort to set this up. As a scam
           | business plan, it's not a good one.
        
             | bangaladore wrote:
             | With a chinese manufacturer, I think you could probably
             | make about 100 of these for less than a few thousand bucks
             | easily. With all the cost in the cnc'd heat spreaders.
             | Maybe 100 for < 1k.
        
           | userbinator wrote:
           | Indeed, remarked CPUs have been a known scam for decades by
           | now. At least those will somewhat work and delay the arousal
           | of suspicion, while this is an instant fail.
           | 
           | Perhaps this was made for warranty fraud?
        
         | transcriptase wrote:
         | Same. Was immediately worried since I bought a 7800x3d for a
         | "too good to be true" price off Aliexpress earlier in the year
         | that works flawlessly and appears to be the real deal.
        
           | NotACop182 wrote:
           | Did you benchmark it? Could be an old chip relasered to fool
           | consumer
        
         | ClassyJacket wrote:
         | I was going to say - I didn't think it was plausible that
         | anyone had the capability to manufacture competitive chips,
         | without the world knowing their foundry exists.
         | 
         | Would have been funny if it was real, but was actually a 486,
         | or something. Probably not possible due to motherboard
         | compatibility\pin configurations or something, but still.
        
       | shantara wrote:
       | Bought on OLX, which is an Eastern/Central European version of
       | Craigslist. Not a place that you should be buying expensive
       | electronics without considering a possibility that you're being
       | scammed
        
       | minkles wrote:
       | That's quite a bit of effort gone into a plausible looking fake.
       | As always buy from a reputable seller. There are few real
       | bargains out there.
       | 
       | It's usually less interesting on the EE side where you'll get
       | something that looks like an expensive opamp but turns out to be
       | an LM358. It might even partially work in circuit!
        
       | userbinator wrote:
       | They certainly have been getting more convincing. I still
       | remember this crude attempt 14 years ago:
       | https://www.overclockers.com/forums/threads/reported-fake-in...
        
         | scrlk wrote:
         | Not a CPU, but I remember Nvidia being the source of many jokes
         | back in the day for their Fermi mock up using wood screws:
         | https://bit-tech.net/news/tech/graphics/fermi-card-on-stage-...
        
       | echoangle wrote:
       | Why would you go that far to make a fake? If the buyer can't do a
       | chargeback, you can just ship a rock, and if they can, how does
       | shipping something that's obviously broken help you prevent a
       | chargeback? I don't get it.
        
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