[HN Gopher] Japan's Real First Console? Bandai's TV Jack 5000
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       Japan's Real First Console? Bandai's TV Jack 5000
        
       Author : zdw
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2024-08-25 21:47 UTC (4 days ago)
        
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       | marginalia_nu wrote:
       | It's insane how fast things were moving in the years between 1980
       | and 2010 in terms of video games. My favorite example of the
       | disgusting rate tech was advancing during this period is that in
       | about ten years we went from Doom 1 to Doom 3.
        
         | eloisant wrote:
         | I feel like I'm lucky to have lived this period of fast
         | progress, not only for video games but internet as well.
         | 
         | By contrast between 2010 and today the progress seems pretty
         | slow.
        
           | throwup238 wrote:
           | _> By contrast between 2010 and today the progress seems
           | pretty slow._
           | 
           | I think you're just getting older and with more experience,
           | it takes more to impress, while the technological progress is
           | more and more in biotech and other high tech fields that
           | consumers aren't exposed to as often.
           | 
           | I mean, we literally just had a global pandemic where the
           | vaccine was developed in _weeks_ and brought to market in
           | under a year. That 's nearly Star Trek levels of tech where
           | they develop some brand new cure within an episode.
        
             | jajko wrote:
             | Any sufficiently advanced tech is magic to those who don't
             | see under the hood. Common folks thinking chatgpt is AGI
             | for example.
             | 
             | mRNA vaccines wasn't some sort of green field, companies
             | just plugged new virus into products and methologies they
             | worked on for decade(s). What made it fast was all the
             | bureucratic red tape removed, instead of 10 years of staged
             | trials and processes we got few months iirc and massive
             | fingers crossed.
             | 
             | Star trek level would be finding 100% vaccine with 0 side
             | effects and instant cure of infected on spot, in few
             | minutes, by single doctor/medic in tiny 1-room lab. Not yet
             | there. Not diminishing the mammoth continuous effort of all
             | involved here just to be clear
        
             | anthk wrote:
             | When patents and all the burocratic bullshit gets away
             | because, well, virii don't give a shit on lawyers, Science
             | skyrockets.
        
           | TeaBrain wrote:
           | I agree and I don't think the guy who previously responded to
           | you had a very constructive or relevant response, considering
           | that you and the person you were responding to were clearly
           | referencing consumer technology. From 1980 till 2010, we went
           | from smartphones not existing, to smartphones not only
           | existing in the form factor that they still exist in today,
           | but also being important parts of everyday life, in most ways
           | that they still are today. We also went from games without
           | 3-D polygons, which hadn't yet made use of GPUs, to modern
           | high definition 3-D environments. Controller design
           | innovations also went through many iterations over that three
           | decade period, but have mostly been stable since 2010.
           | 
           | Other innovative technologies, used by smartphones, consoles
           | and other consumer electronics, which are also now
           | ubiquitous, like low-cost high-definition LCDs, broadband
           | internet, wi-fi, Bluetooth, cellular data, flash storage,
           | active-pixel sensors, USB and HDMI, were also developed
           | during that period.
        
             | anthk wrote:
             | What? USB dates back to the 90's. The same with Flash
             | storage.
             | 
             | Most of these things peaked at 2004-5 at most.
        
           | mortenjorck wrote:
           | I saw a canny observation the other day:
           | 
           | The first three full-3D Grand Theft Auto games, III, Vice
           | City, and San Andreas, all shipped on the Playstation 2.
           | 
           | Grand Theft Auto V, by contrast, has been the latest game in
           | the series across three successive _console generations._
        
             | bobthepanda wrote:
             | To be fair thats an outlier and says more about Rockstar
             | than the state of technology. The only other game I can
             | think of with that kind of cross cutting is Skyrim.
        
               | justsomehnguy wrote:
               | It says more about the consumers. You could run Doom in
               | 1997, but there were more more interesting things to
               | play. Latest GTA is still interestong enough to surive
               | the console generations.
        
             | Barrin92 wrote:
             | It's an entirely different game in scope. According to
             | Wikipedia Vice City featured 8000 lines of recorded
             | dialogue, III a quarter of that. GTA V apparently features
             | 160.000 lines of dialogue, Red Dead Redemption 2 apparently
             | half a million(!) with 1200 voice actors.
             | 
             | It isn't even comparable. Modern games have thousands of
             | hours of recorded motion capture, people in the hundreds
             | and thousands recording professionally acted and written
             | dialogue and three music albums worth of a soundtrack. No
             | offense to the original Deus Ex and what have you but it
             | had like four people
             | (https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/Deus-Ex/)
             | reading the entire script and it sounded sometimes like it
             | was recorded in someone's closet.
        
         | msephton wrote:
         | Things always seem more compressed in time looking back. At the
         | time it felt quite slow. I can tell you that around 1990 when I
         | was programming my Atari ST the summers lasted forever! I used
         | that machine for about 5 years. Then there was Windows 95,
         | another 5 years, etc.
        
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