[HN Gopher] Purism Domain Puri.sm Suspended?
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Purism Domain Puri.sm Suspended?
Author : qxotk
Score : 45 points
Date : 2024-08-28 20:35 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (whois.marcaria.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (whois.marcaria.com)
| m463 wrote:
| yes, doesn't respond. Domain Name: puri.sm
| Registration date: 05/05/2014 Status: Suspended
| Owner: Purism SPC
|
| ... DNS Servers: ns1.puri.sm
| ns2.puri.sm ns3.puri.sm
|
| hmm... and DNS servers are in the domain
| therein wrote:
| That isn't outrageous however I totally understand why it rubs
| you the wrong way.
|
| I was also baffled by that aspect of DNS before. During my
| first internship, my mentor who was impressed with my knowledge
| in general asked me if I had anything to ask. I told him there
| is something that doesn't make any sense to me at all about
| DNS. I asked him exactly that situation, and we talked about
| glue records and it all clicked. I think you could also
| bootstrap with things in the cache if you're careful since it
| is a distributed system.
|
| https://www.ibm.com/blog/understanding-glue-records-and-dedi...
| kstrauser wrote:
| I think they were talking about the "Status: Suspended" part
| more than the NS records.
| playingalong wrote:
| Check the last line with "hmmm".
| m463 wrote:
| I was also wondering about the NS records.
|
| Lots of other domains generally have nameservers that are
| outside the domain, or at least a mix of in/outside the
| domain. In this case it looks like it could be a best
| practice to do this.
| andrewSC wrote:
| What was the tool used to generate this output?
| Arnt wrote:
| That looks like whois, available on most Unix versions.
| nottorp wrote:
| I suppose this is a case of where filling in the text field when
| you pressed submit would have helped.
|
| What is a Purism and why should I care?
| RIMR wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purism_(company)
| jacobgkau wrote:
| Purism is a company in California that sells Linux computers
| and other privacy-focused devices and services. Their Librem 5
| phone is probably the most famous product they've had; it was
| originally crowdfunded and had a lot of delays with production
| and delivery, but on the other hand, it resulted in a lot of
| contributions to the GNOME project (specifically the current
| GTK and Adwaita combo, which has incorporated a lot from
| Purism's libhandy project).
| masspro wrote:
| Purism also had/has this AweSIM cellular plan offering.
| Shortly after I signed up (a couple years ago), their
| backbone provider went bankrupt or dropped them or something;
| don't remember. The outage lasted _months_ , and during that
| whole time they kept charging the monthly fees! I sent a
| pointed message to support and they said "oh, well we promise
| we were always planning on refunding these charges later."
| They offered to refund me individually because I'd called
| them out.
| nottorp wrote:
| Thanks. I know about the Librem phone actually. Had no idea
| how the company making it is named though.
| frankharv wrote:
| Well seeing how hackernews is a tech site we kinda expect you
| to know tech.
| bangaladore wrote:
| Count me as another person who had (had) no idea what this
| company is. They have 32 employees and < 10M revenue.
| jacobgkau wrote:
| They kind of punch above their weight in terms of name
| recognition and development influence within the desktop
| Linux ecosystem. I currently work at System76, and we're
| kind of the same way; anyone following the /r/Linux
| subreddit or reading OMG! Ubuntu for more than a month
| probably knows _of_ us, even though we 're not actually
| that large.
|
| But if you don't use Linux or don't actively follow desktop
| Linux development, then it would be quite easy to have no
| clue.
| bangaladore wrote:
| > But if you don't use Linux or don't actively follow
| desktop Linux development, then it would be quite easy to
| have no clue.
|
| I don't, and that's probably why.
| nottorp wrote:
| It's not the size. They have (had?) one well known product
| but the fanbois expect everyone to know how the company is
| called, what US state it's registered in and the CEOs shoe
| size...
|
| > I currently work at System76, and we're kind of the same
| way; anyone following the /r/Linux subreddit or reading
| OMG! Ubuntu for more than a month probably knows of us
|
| Funny, in this case I know of your company name but have no
| idea if your products have names and what they are.
| boopmaster wrote:
| famous for linux desktops with wood-grain paneling, if
| memory serves! (and it maybe doesn't!)
| 0xcde4c3db wrote:
| Purism is mostly known for its laptop and smartphone
| products. You might be thinking of System76 Thelio.
| jacobgkau wrote:
| Yeah, that's why I said " _of_ us, " lol. We have our
| fingers in a lot of pies, also similar to Purism (but not
| a 100% overlap, and with some differences in philosophy).
|
| My point wasn't that everyone _should_ know Purism
| already, just explaining why it seems completely obvious
| to those of us in that niche. I really think it 's a
| legitimate feeling of "they're in the news all the time"
| and forgetting that not everyone is exposed to the same
| news, rather than just a "fanboy" thing. For some people,
| they're right up there with Red Hat and Canonical in
| terms of presence.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Okay, but as a person reading a tech forum, it is assumed
| knowing how to look something up on the internet is
| something that is known. Unless you're just so
| fundamentally afraid of rabbit holes that you just don't
| use the web like that.
| cesarb wrote:
| > we kinda expect you to know tech.
|
| Technology is a vast field, you can't expect everyone "in
| tech" to know all corners of "tech". This one is well-known
| if you're looking for alternatives to the current smartphone
| duopoly, but if that's not your technology niche, there's a
| good chance that it didn't enter your radar.
|
| See also: https://xkcd.com/1053/
| buro9 wrote:
| Oh I bet the registrar didn't pay the annual fee and that .sm
| suspended the domain as a result.
|
| Context, this would be the third time I've heard of this, I was
| the second time I heard of this happening to .sm domains and it
| was via Gandi screwing it up. The first was actually Purism.
|
| https://puri.sm/posts/the-great-purism-dns-outage-of-2018/
|
| https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/386644/
| teruakohatu wrote:
| Everyone wants a cute domain but there are good reasons to go
| with .com or with your country's national domain extension.
| zaik wrote:
| Is the problem here with the TLD or the domain registrar?
| booi wrote:
| Probably both. lesser TLDs probably don't have the volume
| and money to support more automated and less error prone
| systems
| xyst wrote:
| True, I wanted to register crowdstrike.sucks only to realize
| it's owned by some PR firm crowd strike keeps on retainer.
| michaelt wrote:
| And here's that first link in archive form, because puri.sm is
| suspended:
| https://web.archive.org/web/20240521012506/https://puri.sm/p...
|
| TLDR: Last time this happened, it was that their registrar
| forgot to pay the San Marino (.sm) registry.
|
| Hilariously, their registrar's "sm specialist" was in
| California - but the San Marino registry's office hours are
| from midnight California time to 9am California Time, so the
| registry's "sm specialist" was incapable of contacting the
| registry :D
| cjm42 wrote:
| https://purismspc.com (the backup domain they registered after
| the 2018 outage) is sort of working. It responds, but links all
| go to puri.sm so they don't work, stylesheets don't load, etc.
| whalesalad wrote:
| This is why you don't use ccTLD's for your business.
| cesarb wrote:
| Or rather, why you don't use ccTLDs _of other countries_ for
| your business. Using your own country 's ccTLD is perfectly
| fine, and has an advantage over a gTLD of not being potentially
| subject to the whims of a foreign country.
| leavenotracks wrote:
| e-mail service provided by purism (librem.one) also appears to be
| down :(
|
| I have to say though apart from the occasional blip, service has
| been pretty steadfast for the last ~5 years.
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