[HN Gopher] San Francisco officials weigh in on departure of X h...
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San Francisco officials weigh in on departure of X headquarters:
'Good riddance'
Author : jarsin
Score : 35 points
Date : 2024-08-25 21:59 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| whall6 wrote:
| Why insist on making enemies? Even if it is Elon Musk. How hard
| is it to just ignore the question?
| Zambyte wrote:
| What question?
| underseacables wrote:
| San Francisco has been saying good riddance to a lot of good
| companies for a while now. Maybe not out loud, but certainly
| through their policies have they driven away a lot of business.
| Downtown is a ghost town now.
| sien wrote:
| Are they starting to move people on now in San Francisco ?
|
| With the Grants Pass vs Johnson decision (
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Grants_Pass_v._Johnson )
| it seems like it is now possible.
|
| Is there any change in other places under the jurisdiction of
| the ninth circuit court ?
| bobthepanda wrote:
| I am not sure about SF, but there is tension in LA now
| because Newsom is doing sweeps on state owned land and has
| pressured LA officials to do sweeps, which they are against.
| jmclnx wrote:
| I wonder if this move is also a "hidden layoff", that is where he
| will say "Move to TX or quit, your choice".
|
| Also if an employee moves to TX, will they get moving expenses ?
| nehal3m wrote:
| I'm not from the US. What if you choose not to quit but not to
| move either? Would they have to fire you so you can get
| unemployment benefits?
| andsoitis wrote:
| X isn't moving to Texas.
|
| They're relocating to San Jose and Palo Alto, which is 40 - 60
| mins or so south of San Francisco.
| https://fortune.com/2024/08/05/x-closing-san-francisco-hq-re...
| dylan604 wrote:
| For any San Francisco person moving to Texas, the coldest
| winter will not be a summer here.
| BurningFrog wrote:
| Elon already got rid of 80-90% of the original employees.
|
| I doubt he'll start sugar coating it now.
| mjfl wrote:
| This is like Saudi Arabia pretending to say 'good riddance' to
| oil. What are you going to do when it's all gone?
| ceejayoz wrote:
| Twitter already laid off 80-90% of staff. It was already almost
| all gone, from SF's perspective.
| TechnicolorByte wrote:
| Comparing X, which is one company (with a far reduced headcount
| and much smaller revenues compared to pre-Elon) in a tech hub
| city to an entire oil industry in an oil-rich state seems
| beyond hyperbolic.
| DonHopkins wrote:
| Are you saying that Elon Musk is oily?
| hindsightbias wrote:
| Party like it's 2011 agian, before the dumb supes gave them a
| tax break not to move and it all went to crap.
| joemazerino wrote:
| The residual damage from large companies moving out of downtown
| cores seem to be lost on the local politicians. They will say
| everything is fine as the service industry meant to sustain
| companies evaporate.
| wrs wrote:
| That's not the definition of "gross receipts". Perhaps Elon
| thinks he's too smart to ask an actual accountant, or perhaps
| he's mad about the "Overpaid Executive" surcharge on the gross
| receipts tax. [0]
|
| [0] https://sftreasurer.org/business/taxes-fees/overpaid-
| executi...
| atleastoptimal wrote:
| San Francisco needs to get its act together. Richest, smartest
| city in the US, perhaps the planet, and its downtown is barely
| habitable, and development/improvement is relegated to very
| exclusive rich areas.
| crooked-v wrote:
| I think you can sum up almost all of SF's instituional issues
| with the fact that as of June this year, they'd approved 16 new
| housing units, total, for the entire city
| (https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-only-agreed-
| build-16-...).
| pfisherman wrote:
| Downtown has never been where the bulk of the ppl in SF live or
| hang out. It is for the "bridge and tunnel crowd" --- mostly
| offices and businesses; and not meant to be habitable.
| coolhand2120 wrote:
| My company HQ is in SF still, not sure how much longer. I get to
| visit downtown fairly frequently. SF is so bad today that people
| just leave their car windows open lest some thief accidently
| believe they had the audacity to lock their cars. Many major
| retailers that I was used to seeing downtown have left. The
| criminals and homeless run the show in SF. Really sad to see how
| far it has gone in such a short period of time. I'm not sure why
| X is leaving, but X is just another company in a long list of
| companies. Often they'll take with them the people who worked
| there, then there's just that many fewer functional citizens as a
| percentage in the city. When does it become a vicious cycle?
| 650REDHAIR wrote:
| I'm downtown SF all day every day.
|
| I'm all over the city all day every day.
|
| I never see windows down.
|
| What are you talking about?
| infotainment wrote:
| Shh, you're not allowed to say anything positive about SF,
| you'll interrupt the ancient and sacred internet ceremony of
| people-who-don't-live-in-SF-talking-about-how-horrible-SF-is.
| BurningFrog wrote:
| Sometimes you _have_ to hit rock bottom before you acknowledge
| you have a problem.
|
| There is still some way left to go.
| big-green-man wrote:
| That's the spirit! Keep doubling down! Never admit that you've
| made a mistake!
| browningstreet wrote:
| The SF problems exist in a lot of American places.
|
| Hard not to think that American governance plus American culture
| are both a bit broken. Without a social safety net, the troubled
| and in-trouble layers of our society can't find a hold for
| recovery.
|
| I'm in SF right now. It's a lovely place across many dimensions.
| But when the bus dropped me off near Civic Center and City Hall,
| I had to walk through and around a crowd that is in need of help.
|
| My office used to be at 8th and Howard. I had to walk around the
| troubles. The hardened part of me thinks "they've done this to
| themselves", and the supportive part of me says "other places
| have figured out the minimum viable social safety net" to avoid
| the worst of it.
|
| Hard to believe that a Whole Foods went into a giant residential
| development center and no one could figure out how not to lose
| it.
| HeatrayEnjoyer wrote:
| >Hard to believe that a Whole Foods went into a giant
| residential development center and no one could figure out how
| not to lose it.
|
| As in went out of business?
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