[HN Gopher] Moom 4: Next-generation window manager
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       Moom 4: Next-generation window manager
        
       Author : ctippett
       Score  : 59 points
       Date   : 2024-08-21 15:32 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | nickandbro wrote:
       | I use AeroSpace and I am really liking it
       | <https://github.com/nikitabobko/AeroSpace>
       | 
       | Seems this window manager is more like a drop in replacement for
       | non-i3 users.
        
         | ganksalot wrote:
         | Thanks for the link, I've been using Rectangle for ~3 months
         | and have liked it, but the autosize feature in AeroSpace seems
         | really nice.
        
       | mckn1ght wrote:
       | Longtime Moom user, I've tried many others but this is the best
       | IMO. The config plist is part of my dotfiles repo and I've been
       | able to effortlessly port the settings between multiple new
       | machines. Everything I need is available with just key chords.
       | 
       | I am excited about a resizable settings window though!
        
         | gjtorikian wrote:
         | Ooooh, I'm always curious about how other Moom users set up
         | their env. Mind sharing your dotfiles repo?
        
         | drcongo wrote:
         | I think I've been using Moom since v1 which is a very long
         | time, I paid for this one before I'd even clicked the download
         | button.
        
       | mhd wrote:
       | "Moom 4 is available now, and requires macOS 10.13 or newer."
       | 
       | Always glad to see software that still aims for some backwards
       | compatibility. Sure, it might require a bit more testing and/or
       | handling some customer complaints, but not everyone is one the
       | latest version or able to do that.
       | 
       | (I do wonder whether a lot of that isn't just driven by either
       | just accepting XCode defaults or some Swift stuff that has a very
       | low range backwards)
        
       | tchbnl wrote:
       | Long time and very happy Moom user. Instantly bought a new
       | license for Moom 4.
        
       | jmclnx wrote:
       | I wish this would have mention only for Apple in the title, I was
       | thinking it was a WM for Linux and/or BSDs
        
       | als0 wrote:
       | Looks great. How can I get it to automatically tile my windows
       | without using a hot key?
        
       | NayamAmarshe wrote:
       | I wish someone could just make PaperWM for MacOS. It's such a
       | revolutionary idea!
        
         | jryan49 wrote:
         | https://github.com/mogenson/PaperWM.spoon
        
         | squigz wrote:
         | I've been a happy i3 user for many, many years. This is the
         | first time I've ever considered switching. What a fascinating
         | idea!
        
       | timenova wrote:
       | The thing with most of these macOS window managers is they lack
       | support for workspaces, an essential feature in WMs like i3.
       | 
       | macOS Workspaces are not the best to use, because switching
       | between them causes an animation or at least a delay. I started
       | using Aerospace [0] recently, and they've implemented virtual
       | workspaces themselves which works much better than macOS
       | Workspaces.
       | 
       | I still have to configure Aerospace properly for multi-display
       | setups, but it works really well with this i3-like config right
       | out of the box [1]. And they have comprehensive docs too!
       | 
       | I highly recommend trying out Aerospace if current macOS window
       | management solutions aren't working well for you.
       | 
       | [0] https://nikitabobko.github.io/AeroSpace/guide
       | 
       | [1] https://nikitabobko.github.io/AeroSpace/goodness#i3-like-
       | con...
        
         | msravi wrote:
         | Aerospace is great and such a releif for an incoming
         | i3/regolith user. Tried yabai for a while, but switching
         | workspaces still sucks. Aerospace solves this by creating its
         | own virtual workspaces and hiding windows from other workspaces
         | just off the viewable area and behind other windows of the
         | current workspace.
        
       | tsuru wrote:
       | The first of this macOS WMs that implement something that
       | understands the wayland protocol -- bridges it to macOS
       | compositor or whatever -- will really have my money.
        
       | JakeSc wrote:
       | Looks very intriguing, will give this a try. As a windowing and
       | task switching productivity nut, I built my own replacement for
       | [?]+Tab, Switcheroo. Check it out here: https://switchfaster.com/
        
         | dimator wrote:
         | That's a neat idea! Any chance that a DMG can be made available
         | outside the app store?
        
         | nalzok wrote:
         | You may want to check out
         | [rcmd](https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd/).
        
       | alanwreath wrote:
       | Looks interesting, it probably is more stable than yabai, but I
       | still really love the simplicity (post install) of window
       | managing
       | 
       | https://github.com/koekeishiya/yabai
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k94qImbFKWE
        
       | wellthisisgreat wrote:
       | Can I bind arbitrary hotkey combos to different window positions/
       | sizes? Like in better snap tool?
       | 
       | E.g. "cmd opt >" to put the window at 1/3 width on the right side
       | of the screen?
        
       | dsp_person wrote:
       | I'm always curious to see how people are selling desktop software
       | like this. This developer has many other misc tools for sale on
       | this website.
       | 
       | Q: Are mac people more likely to look for and buy misc desktop
       | utilities?
       | 
       | I wonder about market size vs niche size for windows vs macos vs
       | linux tools. Clearly windows is the biggest market, but I feel
       | like I run into a lot of these niche macos utilities for sale,
       | often here on hackernews.
       | 
       | For linux which I'm most interested in, I have a harder time
       | imagining people wanting to pay for a closed source tool. But am
       | trying to note successes with people using patreon, itch.io, or
       | github sponsors.
        
         | Terretta wrote:
         | > _Q: Are mac people more likely to look for and buy misc
         | desktop utilities?_
         | 
         | This has been one of _the_ options for well over a decade.
         | 
         | And yes.
         | 
         | Check out dozens of them less expensively using setapp:
         | 
         | https://setapp.com/
         | 
         | Many work on both MacOS and iOS (yes, iOS software paid for
         | through a SetApp subscription).
        
         | clircle wrote:
         | I buy some MacOS utilities. There are some good ones out there,
         | and I don't mind paying for things that make computers less
         | grating.
        
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