[HN Gopher] We have reached OpenBSD of Theseus
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We have reached OpenBSD of Theseus
Author : nabla9
Score : 160 points
Date : 2024-08-23 19:39 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| unethical_ban wrote:
| I've never been a mailing list user. I thought there would be a
| link to the files affected.
|
| Congratulations to OpenBSD!
| runjake wrote:
| Practically all these people have a local checkout of the repo
| on their local computers. URLs aren't needed (for them).
|
| https://github.com/openbsd/src/commit/a6105854a9e3aab642e6a0...
| binkHN wrote:
| Ah yes. The great collection of games, still maintained. Always
| enjoy OpenBSD for its security, but got to hand it to the team
| for continuing to be fun-loving and producing artwork and songs
| for every release/every six months, like clockwork.
| rany_ wrote:
| Here's the change itself:
| https://github.com/openbsd/src/commit/a6105854a9e3aab642e6a0...
|
| I know that OpenBSD doesn't actually use GitHub, but it was the
| easiest way I could find the diff. I don't know how to otherwise
| get it from that mailing list entry.
| asveikau wrote:
| They have a cvsweb instance on their website, but the UI is a
| little more old school than github, so the github mirror is
| often good for browsing anyway.
|
| https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/
| marcellus23 wrote:
| Why remove the Greek queez instead of just adding the ship parts
| quiz? I guess I understand the obscurity argument (although as a
| classicist it makes me sad), but there's still a Latin quiz
| there. Hell there's even an Inca quiz. How does that meet the
| obscurity bar but not Greek?
| altairprime wrote:
| They would certainly welcome a patch from someone motivated,
| though I suspect this first one was driven by a desire to make
| a pun out of the milestone.
| tedunangst wrote:
| How would that complete the ship of Theseus?
| thoaway9 wrote:
| I think that removing Greek is unnecessarily ironic... cool
| historic reference, but a bit of an effort could have been
| made.
| tedunangst wrote:
| I think 28 years is sufficient grace period for concerned
| individuals to make a bit of an effort. What have you been
| waiting for?
| inopinatus wrote:
| to counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor
| deanmen wrote:
| It used ASCII substitutes for the greek letters, Latin only
| uses Latin letters $luw$:{I} [loose|destroy]
| $eluon$:{I} [loosed|destroyed|was loosing|was destroying]
| $elusa$:{I} [loosed|destroyed] $leluka$:{I} have
| [loosed|destroyed] $lusw$:{I} will [loose|destroy]
| $luswn$:[loosing|destroying] $lusas$:{having}
| [loosed|destroyed]
| nescioquid wrote:
| I would guess most people interested in the quiz would be
| familiar with betacode (which this looks like, sans
| diacritics).
|
| edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Code
| buescher wrote:
| "Beta Code was developed by David W. Packard" (not that
| David Packard, but his son). Neat.
| schoen wrote:
| I tried the quiz after reading the mailing list message and
| got three of them right. (I didn't study Greek long enough to
| get all the way through the verb paradigm and I haven't used
| it very regularly since then.) So yeah, I don't get the claim
| that nobody could play this quiz. I think I have friends who
| would get all of them right offhand. It's no more complicated
| than knowing the difference between "hablo", "hablare",
| "hable", "hablaba", "hablado", and "hablando" in Spanish,
| except that fewer people study ancient Greek than modern
| Spanish (and the older Indo-European languages do more stem-
| mutation between tenses, so it can be a bit more effort to
| memorize).
|
| The worst part of this format is probably that if you did
| "quiz english greek" it wouldn't accept any form of accent or
| breathing marks, even though these are also standardized in
| beta code and some people would probably try to type them,
| like "e)luon" to show that there's no /h/ sound at the
| beginning of that word. And I don't think typing beta code in
| between dollar signs is a very common convention today, but
| the quiz would require it; you can't just type "luw", you
| have to type "$luw$".
| stavros wrote:
| What is this quiz? Can someone provide some context?
| Jtsummers wrote:
| Seems to be a trivia quiz game included in OpenBSD.
|
| https://github.com/openbsd/src/tree/a6105854a9e3aab642e6a0fc...
|
| In datfiles/index there's a list of categories and with some
| interpretation you can see what they're asking. Like "chinese"
| is The Chinese zodiac, current sign and next. "pres" quizzes
| you on the president, their term, vice, and successor.
| stavros wrote:
| Thank you!
| brynet wrote:
| It's a BSD game.
|
| https://man.openbsd.org/quiz
| Flop7331 wrote:
| If I take all the commits up to that point and rebuild OpenBSD
| from that original material, that's the _real_ OpenBSD of
| Theseus.
| AlienRobot wrote:
| It's the start of a new era.
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