[HN Gopher] We don't know how bad most things are nor precisely ...
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       We don't know how bad most things are nor precisely how they're bad
        
       Author : surprisetalk
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2024-08-21 15:16 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | PaulHoule wrote:
       | I showed my wife (who runs a riding academy) a picture of a
       | pretty Chinese girl holding a horse somewhere near the mountains
       | in the West of China and the first thing she noticed was that
       | they'd put the halter on wrong.
       | 
       | I was impressed with how AIs would draw individual stitches on
       | clothes but a seamstress friend of mine shook her head and
       | pointed out how they also got it wrong.
        
       | ZeroGravitas wrote:
       | I think with piano tuning, or anything that is historical and
       | physical and analogue and has status, you're going to get lost in
       | human psychology and so miss the real issue.
       | 
       | A similar field that has always been digital is audio and video
       | compression codecs.
       | 
       | You see similar issues with say Apple advertising their
       | compression as perfect, and devoted hobbyists slaving away to
       | meet goals that the average person cannot even discern.
       | 
       | The capitalist, rather than technical, reality is that advances
       | will be used to deliver the same (or lower) quality at a cheaper
       | rate. And if you measure progress by the number of people who can
       | watch Fast and the Furious on their Android phone on a capped
       | data plan in a third world country that is perhaps the best
       | thing.
       | 
       | And even if you care only for perfection, despite all the genius
       | and effort applied, you could argue that most of the progress
       | over decades has been the ability to throw more CPU at the
       | problem.
        
         | ineedaj0b wrote:
         | the Japanese seem to have a culture that appreciates the
         | pursuit of perfection, at least in some domains.
        
         | PaulHoule wrote:
         | There is also a lot of bullshit about "quality" -- like the
         | idea that you could get a significant quality improvement
         | sampling audio at 96k as opposed to 44.1k or 48k.
         | 
         | For that matter I can't believe people's eyes don't glaze over
         | when they see TV ads that say, for instance, that Dawn dish
         | detergent is better than other brands even though Dawn really
         | has a better package of surfactants than most competitors and,
         | over time, P&G has invested a lot of research into improving
         | it. (E.g. ultraconcentrated soaps were an advance in practical
         | chemistry and you really can clean more with less soap)
        
         | mewpmewp2 wrote:
         | All of this makes me think. I recently bought a car, and there
         | seems to be quite a bit of audio difference. Or how pleasurable
         | the audio sounds, how immersive, how the bass sounds.
         | 
         | 1) Using Android Auto
         | 
         | 2) Using Apple CarPlay
         | 
         | 3) Which USB cables are used. Some seem to be better than
         | others.
         | 
         | 4) If it's over bluetooth - the worst experience with Android
         | for me.
         | 
         | 5) Car radio vs the above
         | 
         | 6) Am I using YouTube Music or Spotify on Android Auto/Apple
         | CarPlay
         | 
         | It's almost like with some of these configuration it's
         | frustrating, while it's really pleasurable with others, but I
         | can't tell if I'm imagining it.
        
       | Spivak wrote:
       | I'm having a hard time squaring the "don't put this guy out of
       | business because it will become a lost art" with the very real
       | practical goal of "release a digital piano tuner for $2 on the
       | App Store that will make every piano not tuned by this guy-- the
       | ones in school theaters, churches, or sitting rooms, sound
       | _better_.
        
       | 1970-01-01 wrote:
       | Befrend anyone that is working full-time in one of the skilled
       | trades (welding, plumbing, masonry, roofer, etc.) and they will
       | tell you precisely how bad the thing is.
        
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