[HN Gopher] Revisiting the Classics: Jensen's Inequality (2023)
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Revisiting the Classics: Jensen's Inequality (2023)
Author : cpp_frog
Score : 78 points
Date : 2024-08-21 14:05 UTC (1 days ago)
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| thehappyfellow wrote:
| The proof of Young's inequality is pretty neat but has the
| ,,magically think of taking a log of an arbitrary expression
| which happens to work" step. But it clarifies why the reciprocals
| of exponents have to sum up to 1: they are interpreted as
| probabilities when calculating expected value.
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| Here's how I like to conceptualise it: bounding mixed variable
| product by sum of single variable terms is useful. Logarithms
| change multiplication to addition. Jensen's inequality lifts
| addition from the argument of a convex function outside. Compose.
| contravariant wrote:
| You've got a product on one side and what looks like a convex
| combination on the other, taking the log and applying Jensen's
| inequality isn't as big a leap as it may sound.
| thehappyfellow wrote:
| Agreed, provided you have both sides of the inequality.
| Coming up with that particular convex combination is a bit of
| a leap that's not super intuitive to me.
| SpaceManNabs wrote:
| if you work with a lot of convex optimization, it comes up
| pretty often. for example, if you learn fenchel conjugates,
| the lead up and motivation to learning them will often
| necessitate proving young's inequality with jensen's
| inequality. that is why learning different maths is cool.
| you intuit some ways to reshape the problem in order to
| make these "not super intuitive" connections.
| contravariant wrote:
| It often happens that coming up with the right theorem is a
| lot harder than finding its proof, but that's life. You
| can't have _everything_ be easy, otherwise we 'd have
| finished by now.
| maxmininflect wrote:
| A very natural explanation of "wikipedia proof 2" for
| differentiable functions seems to be missing:
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| By linearity of expectation, both sides are linear in f, and for
| linear f we have equality. Let's subtract the linear function
| whose graph is the tangent hyperplane to f at E(X). By above,
| this does not change the validity of the inequality. But now the
| left hand side is 0, and right hand side is non-negative by
| convexity, so we are done.
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| It's also now clear what the difference of the two sides is --
| it's the expectation of the gap between f(X) an and the value of
| the tangent plane at X.
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| Now in general replace tangent hyperplane with graph of a
| subderivative, to recover what wiki says.
| FabHK wrote:
| And the extent to which the expectation of the function of the
| random variable exceeds the function of the expectation of the
| random variable depends on the variable's variability (or
| variance), as can be seen eg by a Taylor expansion around the
| expectation.
|
| That's the reason why _linear (or affine)_ financial derivatives
| (such as forwards) can be priced without using volatility as an
| input, while products _with convexity_ (such as options) require
| volatility as an input.
|
| (Side note: I think Delta One desks should rename to Gamma
| Zero...)
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