[HN Gopher] Tom Wolfe's Irresistible Snap, Crackle and Pop
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       Tom Wolfe's Irresistible Snap, Crackle and Pop
        
       Author : Caiero
       Score  : 18 points
       Date   : 2024-08-19 05:33 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | brudgers wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/gVxW8
        
       | woodruffw wrote:
       | These two essays in TFA were published in a larger collection[1]
       | by Wolfe, which I'd recommend. The essay on Marshall McLuhan in
       | particular might be interesting to HN's audience.
       | 
       | [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pump_House_Gang
        
       | cafard wrote:
       | Let's step back a bit. Brooks mentions the Astors, Rockefellers,
       | and Whitneys. The founder of the Astor fortunes was a butcher's
       | son, and apparently John D. Rockefeller's father was nothing
       | special. To quote Mrs. Archer in _The Age of Innocence_
       | (https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/541/pg541.txt)
       | 
       | """ "Don't tell me," Mrs. Archer would say to her children, "all
       | this modern newspaper rubbish about a New York aristocracy. If
       | there is one, neither the Mingotts nor the Mansons belong to it;
       | no, nor the Newlands or the Chiverses either. Our grandfathers
       | and great-grandfathers were just respectable English or Dutch
       | merchants, who came to the colonies to make their fortune, and
       | stayed here because they did so well. One of your great-
       | grandfathers signed the Declaration, and another was a general on
       | Washington's staff, and received General Burgoyne's sword after
       | the battle of Saratoga. These are things to be proud of, but they
       | have nothing to do with rank or class. New York has always been a
       | commercial community, and there are not more than three families
       | in it who can claim an aristocratic origin in the real sense of
       | the word." """
       | 
       | And was Leonard Bernstein admired for his taste? I should have
       | said it was his conducting and composing. Was Barbara Walters
       | admired for her taste, or for ability to interview people of some
       | interest?
       | 
       | In general, I reached a point where I really could resist Wolfe's
       | effects, where I was tired of the habitual elbow in my ribs. I
       | would remark also that according to something posted now and then
       | on HN, he got Yeager's crash in _The Right Stuff_ wrong, and
       | apparently also the fiasco with Grissom 's capsule. On the other
       | hand, Ken Kesey did speak well of him.
       | 
       | [edit: added "also" to the second-last sentence]
        
       | Triphibian wrote:
       | I read The Right Stuff recently and it was a pleasure. Very full
       | of life and colorful and he really was able to get at what made
       | these test pilots and astronauts the tick.
        
       | jdminhbg wrote:
       | Radical Chic is available as a PDF from NY Magazine:
       | https://nymag.com/docs/07/05/070529radical_chic.pdf
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       | It's uncanny to read these in the context of the 2020s and see so
       | many parallels.
        
         | hdk wrote:
         | Also the full text version https://nymag.com/article/tom-wolfe-
         | radical-chic-that-party-...
         | 
         | Even though the ones with the photos look much more
         | interesting.
        
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