[HN Gopher] IT tycoon Mike Lynch, daughter Hannah found dead
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       IT tycoon Mike Lynch, daughter Hannah found dead
        
       Author : croes
       Score  : 45 points
       Date   : 2024-08-21 20:26 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | foxyv wrote:
       | Bayesian. If that isn't a cursed boat name... Bad luck!
        
         | THBC wrote:
         | M/S Local Minimum
        
       | ryanmarsh wrote:
       | "Coincidentally, Lynch's co-defendant, Stephen Chamberlain, who
       | was also acquitted, died the day of the storm after being hit by
       | a car on Saturday morning in Stretham, England."
       | 
       | Coincidentally indeed.
       | 
       | "Other missing individuals have been identified by The
       | Independent as: Christopher Morvillo, a lawyer who had
       | represented Lynch and wife Neda Morvillo; Jonathan Bloomer,
       | chairman of investment bank Morgan Stanley International and wife
       | Judy Bloomer."
       | 
       | Oh.
        
         | ignoramous wrote:
         | The maker says the sailing boat was nearly unsinkable (why
         | won't they?)
         | 
         | There are 15 survivors including the Captain, so I doubt foul
         | play. Given that _Waterspouts_ , even the seemingly innocuous
         | ones, are tres powerful, it remains the most likely cause of
         | Bayesian's tragedy.
         | 
         | https://news.sky.com/story/sailing-yachts-like-mike-lynchs-a...
         | / https://archive.md/JKNJ7
        
           | jprd wrote:
           | I mean, I really have to fight my brain from jumping into
           | conspiracy theories at times. This is ABSOLUTELY one of them.
           | 
           | Lot of other nasties running around without repercussions,
           | but Karma/Simulation said nay to these cats. It is crazy hard
           | to just shake off the coincidence at times.
        
           | Nuzzerino wrote:
           | Except the boat's keel was found to be raised, which is a
           | suspicious red flag here.
        
             | defen wrote:
             | > Except the boat's keel was found to be raised
             | 
             | Can you explain what that means? Like...I vaguely know what
             | a keel is, but what does it mean for it to be raised? Who
             | raises it, and how, or what could have caused it to be
             | raised? What keel configuration would not have been a red
             | flag?
        
               | _whiteCaps_ wrote:
               | Some (usually larger) boats can have movable keels -
               | lifting or swing. It's usually controlled by hydraulics.
               | If it's in rough weather you'd expect it to be fully
               | extended to lower the centre of gravity.
               | 
               | They're lifted when going into shallower areas.
        
           | notatoad wrote:
           | >There are 15 survivors including the Captain, so I doubt
           | foul play.
           | 
           | doesn't that make it even more suspicious? the boat goes
           | down, most of the people on it survive, but the guy who
           | ripped off HP and his banker and his lawyer all died.
           | 
           | if you wanted to believe that the ship was sailed into a
           | storm and the sinking was used as cover for a murder, it
           | seems more plausible this way than if everybody on the ship
           | had died. (to be clear, i don't really believe this is what
           | happened. just trying to figure out why the captain surviving
           | makes it less likely to be foul play)
        
             | jongjong wrote:
             | Maybe they saw the storm coming towards them and they
             | panicked and committed suicide.
        
         | cj wrote:
         | It sounds a bit less like a conspiracy theory if you consider
         | that the yacht trip was meant to celebrate winning the legal
         | case. Which explains why key people involved in the legal case
         | are missing... they were on the yacht. The only real
         | coincidence is the land and sea accidents happening around the
         | same time.
        
         | tedunangst wrote:
         | Who were you expecting to be on the yacht?
        
       | _whiteCaps_ wrote:
       | Entirely speculation here, but this is why I don't like lifting
       | keel sailboats. I'm guessing that it was raised while at anchor
       | which made it less stable.
        
         | brk wrote:
         | They were in 160' of water, not sure draft would have been a
         | concern.
        
           | hiatus wrote:
           | Raising the keel would result in a change of the center of
           | gravity of the ship.
        
         | _huayra_ wrote:
         | The only real sailworthiness advantage I know if is that if
         | you're sailing with conditions big enough to make you surf (and
         | downwind, i.e. not some weird situation where the wind and the
         | waves are not coming from the same direction), being able to
         | lift the keel helps avoid getting sideways and broaching from
         | the wave trying to pick the boat "up and over the keel" in a
         | sense. Granted, I've only personally verified this with many
         | dinghies I've raced, but on a larger boat the dynamics might
         | not be the same (I still don't have "big boat" money yet lol!).
        
       | Mistletoe wrote:
       | Photo of The Beyesian:
       | 
       | https://megayachtnews.com/2024/08/yacht-bayesian-sinks-in-se...
       | 
       | For those trying to find a conspiracy, it seems very improbable
       | for anyone behind Chamberlain and Lynch's death other than the
       | laws of probability. I know that HP isn't behind it because HP
       | could never do something successfully.
        
         | cozzyd wrote:
         | I'm pretty sure the laws of probability are sunk here.
        
       | lofaszvanitt wrote:
       | Didn't the captain check the weather forecast or how did this
       | happen? Maybe he was drunk, since everyone celebrated?
        
       | glaucon wrote:
       | I hope this isn't too far off track ...
       | 
       | In 2011 HP paid $12B for his company and then claimed it wasn't
       | worth that much, their write-down suggested they thought it was
       | actually worth $4B.
       | 
       | Wikipedia says Autonomy's tech was "[a] variety of enterprise
       | search and knowledge management applications using adaptive
       | pattern recognition techniques centered on Bayesian inference in
       | conjunction with traditional methods"
       | 
       | It sounds pretty niche for a company that isn't already big in
       | search. Has anyone read what HP thought it could do with the tech
       | to get a return ? I feel like there must have been some need that
       | HP had which I'm unware of.
       | 
       | I do appreciate that the reasons large corps do acquisitions, and
       | how, are not always susceptible to reason but Oracle's market cap
       | at the start of 2011 was $160B. What could have made Autonomy
       | worth 7.5% of Oracle to HP ?
        
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