[HN Gopher] One man's quest to restore the first-ever Air Force One
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       One man's quest to restore the first-ever Air Force One
        
       Author : rmason
       Score  : 35 points
       Date   : 2024-08-15 21:04 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | tocs3 wrote:
       | A beautiful plane.It is to bad they are not flown anymore. Glad
       | to see someone caring for a piece of history.
        
       | fitsumbelay wrote:
       | I'm just relieved this wasn't a post about sneakers but if it was
       | I hoped for the best. This is a topic I never really ever thought
       | about to be honest. If I were pressed to answer I'd assume the
       | first was FDR or Truman. The US presidency (and govt) gets really
       | weird and interesting right after WW2, this feels like an
       | artifact to that point. Shame I can't find any interior shots
       | online, I'm curious to see a photograph that matches the first
       | paragraph of the post ...
        
         | BadHumans wrote:
         | I really wanted this to be about the sneaker.
        
       | w-m wrote:
       | You can step inside the first jet-powered Air Force One in the
       | Museum of Flight in Seattle. It's fully stocked, with meeting
       | rooms and communication equipment and all. My favorite part is
       | the fake temperature control:
       | 
       | > President Johnson was finicky about room temperature and when
       | he was VP and developed a habit of haranguing the flight crew
       | about lowering or raising the cabin temperature. After a while
       | the crew got tired of his shenanigans, so they installed a "fake"
       | temperature control in the Conference Room. This appeasement was
       | successful, and Johnson was so pleased with manipulating the
       | controls himself that he didn't even notice when the temperature
       | remained the same.
       | 
       | https://blog.museumofflight.org/quirks-of-the-first-jet-powe...
        
         | rtkwe wrote:
         | The Airforce Museum in Ohio also has a few different early Air
         | Force Ones including at least one you can walk through.
         | 
         | https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Pres...
        
         | whartung wrote:
         | Ronald Reagan Presidential Library has the last 707 model. Just
         | as an exhibit, and the hoops they had to jump through to
         | install the plane, are remarkable all in themselves.
        
       | netsharc wrote:
       | It reads like it's the Airplane of Theseus...
        
         | ryanmcbride wrote:
         | That's pretty much the difference between restoration and
         | conservation.
         | 
         | It's not about conserving the original parts (though often
         | people restoring something will do that as much as possible)
         | it's about restoring it to what it would have looked like or
         | how it would have worked originally.
         | 
         | Both conservation and restoration are important parts of
         | appreciating history.
        
       | bankcust08385 wrote:
       | Yesterday, I learned most all outdated presidential limos are
       | destroyed and so aren't present in any museum.
        
         | w-m wrote:
         | Oh, really? I guess here goes my second presidential
         | transportation museum fact of this thread then: you can visit a
         | limousine used by Truman in the Little White House in Key West:
         | https://fla-keys.com/news/article/10941/key-west-visitors-ca...
         | 
         | To me it seemed just like any older car, not anything special.
         | Didn't realize they are destroying most of them.
        
       | h4x0rr wrote:
       | I thought it was the Nike shoes lol
        
         | k4rli wrote:
         | Reddit quality comments...
        
       | 0cf8612b2e1e wrote:
       | Is the intention to keep it flying for VIP tours? Why not just
       | focus on the cosmetics instead of the costly real maintenance
       | work? When I see a museum WW2 or older vehicle, I assume the
       | thing can no longer run.
        
         | teruakohatu wrote:
         | There is a museum near me that does the required maintenance on
         | some of the planes they have to keep them in theoretical
         | working condition. I like that I am looking at "real" planes,
         | not just empty shells with the guts ripped out or decayed.
         | Maybe one day they will actually be flown.
         | 
         | Much easier to restore fully in the future if they are
         | maintained now.
        
         | miketery wrote:
         | There's a difference between not flyable, flyable but not
         | certified, fly able and certified. Each step is a big cost
         | difference. But many hobbyist can get from one to two depending
         | on the tech used.
         | 
         | If I recall correctly there's a guy putting Honda engines
         | inside Cessnas making them much cheaper. But they are not
         | certifiable.
        
       | darzu wrote:
       | Damn, I wish they had filmed this restoration and put it all on
       | YouTube, that would have been an incredible channel. Like Tally
       | Ho[0] but for a plane.
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       | [0] https://www.youtube.com/@SampsonBoatCo
        
       | seabass-labrax wrote:
       | I love this aircraft! It was an amazingly advanced aircraft for
       | its time, which is perhaps not surprising when one discovers that
       | no other than Howard Hughes' TWA funded its development.
       | 
       | I can highly recommend the book by Ken Wixey (ISBN
       | 978-0752417660) for a history of both the military and civilian
       | variants; it starts with the Lockheed company's beginnings after
       | the Great War and goes all the way to the Lockheed Starliner (the
       | final variant of the Constellation). Suffice it to say that the
       | model was significantly more reliable than a certain other
       | vehicle with the same name!
       | 
       | Also, there's a Super Constellation that you can fly in the
       | FlightGear simulator[1], which is remarkably accurate (and, dare
       | I say, a big challenge to fly).
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       | [1]: https://wiki.flightgear.org/Lockheed_Constellation
        
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