[HN Gopher] Apple Pushes Ahead with Tabletop Home Device in Shif...
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Apple Pushes Ahead with Tabletop Home Device in Shift to Robotics
Author : mfiguiere
Score : 23 points
Date : 2024-08-14 18:19 UTC (4 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.bloomberg.com)
| melling wrote:
| The device could respond to commands, such as "look at me,"
|
| It doesn't seem very robotic.
| dudeofea wrote:
| I'm the robot now
| ninininino wrote:
| I want them to make a clothes-washing-and-drying device that has
| a hopper you throw dirty clothes into and when enough clothes are
| in it, it turns on and then they come out on other end hung up
| dried, neatly on a clothing rack with no creases or wrinkles (but
| done through steaming not through an iron). So from dirty to
| hung-up with no manual human steps.
| sudosysgen wrote:
| We recently have had the technology to do this (I helped on a
| household robotics project last year where folding cloth was a
| task). As a ADHD afflict, I would love nothing more, but I
| didn't see a way to do it affordably. I fully expect it within
| a few years, though, perhaps with RFID tags for folding and
| cleaning instructions.
| 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
| _Robot, please separate clothes by size and gender._
| fragmede wrote:
| > hung up dried, neatly on a clothing rack with no creases or
| wrinkles
|
| That is a surprisingly difficult thing for a robot/machine to
| do, with the SOTA still requiring speeded up video in demos for
| clothes folding. The difficult part is I the digitizing and
| manipulation, so hanging it on a hangar with robot arms is
| approximately as difficult.
| rolph wrote:
| i think the most diffuculty would be the task of prepping a
| crumpled up ball of several articles of clothing, to ready
| for folding, individual articles, and all whilenot tearing it
| to rags.
|
| perhaps if the clothing was hung to begin with rather than
| hoppered.
|
| a piece of clothing hanging straight would be easier to fold,
| but the entire scheme would require more space for typical
| laundry loads.
| 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
| The dishwasher is slower than hand washing but it still
| mostly eliminates the task.
| sudosysgen wrote:
| The SOTA is about 2-3 minutes per clothing item. That's
| pretty slow, but more than fast enough - who generates more
| than 1 dirty cloth per half hour? Besides, the critical
| source of latency will be washing and drying either way.
| nanomonkey wrote:
| How about if you just hung it up dirty, and it went through a
| supercritical CO2 cleaner, and then transitioned to a clean
| section of your closet?
| ninininino wrote:
| Hang up dirty version is a good incremental product.
| jazzyjackson wrote:
| https://www.samsung.com/us/home-appliances/air-
| dresser/air-d...
| rolph wrote:
| tabletop arena interface coming soon i hope.
|
| "bot, prepare lunch".
|
| [loads ingredients on table].
|
| [selects from proffered menu].
|
| lunch is prepared.
|
| next comes an overhead rail for transit to various stations.
| bitwize wrote:
| "They told me never, ever, EVER to disengage myself from my
| management rail, or I would DIE. But we're out of options here,
| so get ready to catch me on the off chance that I'm not dead
| the moment I pop off this thing."
| Ancalagon wrote:
| Haven't we tried the home robot screen-helpers enough already? We
| don't want it unless it does the dishes better than a dishwasher.
|
| Can't we just focus on iterating Apple Vision Pro? I still think
| there's a ton of potential there.
| willhackett wrote:
| Another device for the e-waste pile. I'd rather pay for working
| software than another iDevice.
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| I don't have access to the full article, but ... it's basically
| just a screen that can swivel to follow you? That doesn't sound
| particularly exciting, interesting, or useful.
|
| > _The company now has a team of several hundred people working
| on the device, which uses a thin robotic arm to move around a
| large screen, according to people with knowledge of the matter._
| pazimzadeh wrote:
| the tabletop part is what sounds limiting. but if it could
| follow you around the house, that could be useful
| naikrovek wrote:
| Uhh. I like being able to walk away from things. I do not
| need my devices following me when I poop or go to bed.
| thehoff wrote:
| So don't buy it?
| scopendo wrote:
| Don't ever get a cocker spaniel then
| throwaway48540 wrote:
| I recommend getting doors, it's very effective at
| preventing entry of unwanted objects.
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| Tell that to these ants.
| pazimzadeh wrote:
| pretty sure you would be able to turn that feature on and
| off
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| I'm not being snarky, but I genuinely can't really imagine
| why.
|
| I guess if I'm walking around the house doing chores while
| I'm watching TV or on a video call with someone?
|
| Otherwise, it seems like it could be cheaper to just install
| multiple terminal screens in your house connected to a hub
| that's aware of where you are.
| rolph wrote:
| 'alexa, where did i leave my keys' ?
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| Don't most people have an Alexa pod in most rooms they're
| in?
| dialup_sounds wrote:
| I might be wrong but it sounds just like a shot at Google Nest
| Hub or Amazon Echo Show, the latter of which has had a
| motorized rotating screen for a few years now.
|
| Calling it a tabletop home robot instead of a "HomePod with a
| Screen" or an "iPad on a Swivel" really sets a different
| expectation, though.
| quitit wrote:
| Probably a good time to be reminded that Apple (and many others)
| seed fake projects to those under NDA to sniff out leaks.
| bitwize wrote:
| This is just Jeebo. Seems a bit tacky for Apple, but if Apple did
| it it would work and be well supported. People would want to buy
| it.
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