[HN Gopher] Why brutalist buildings should stay, even if people ...
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       Why brutalist buildings should stay, even if people think they're
       ugly
        
       Author : everybodyknows
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2024-08-12 22:23 UTC (37 minutes ago)
        
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       | drekipus wrote:
       | "because demolishing buildings is bad for the environment"
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       | Ok. Remodel them instead.
        
       | coldtea wrote:
       | Because the class that writes and reads NPR, living in nice cosy
       | neighborhoods and suburbs, can signal their superior taste, while
       | not having to suffer living anywhere near those buildings.
        
         | janice1999 wrote:
         | Brutalist buildings are not the sole domain of the poor. You'll
         | experience them as government and university buildings, where
         | the class that read NPR can be found.
        
           | thomasmiller_ wrote:
           | Iglesia El Rosario, located in San Salvador, is a beautiful
           | Brutalist structure.
        
       | dudeinjapan wrote:
       | Perhaps there are worse things for the collective psyche than a
       | bit of extra carbon in the atmosphere.
        
       | samcat116 wrote:
       | This seems like a really lazy argument. You could say the same
       | argument about getting rid of almost anything thats old and isn't
       | working 100% for current requirements
        
       | skywhopper wrote:
       | tldr: it's often more expensive to tear them down than to update
       | them. Okay. Same goes for all buildings.
        
       | platz wrote:
       | the argument isn't that it's expensive to tear them down, it's
       | that a lot of carbon was released to create them, so to tear them
       | down would be wasteful.
        
       | evanjrowley wrote:
       | Is brutalist architecture actually unpopular, or is it just
       | popular to rail against brutalism?
        
       | ortusdux wrote:
       | One thing I find interesting about brutalist architecture is that
       | the name originates from the term 'Beton brut', which translates
       | to raw concrete.
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       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9ton_brut
        
       | DoreenMichele wrote:
       | Too little info in the article to judge the value of the position
       | suggested.
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       | They are hard to maintain and update. They tend to not be
       | accessible.
       | 
       | If you believe they "should" be preserved, perhaps write up
       | guidelines on how to update them and publish it.
       | 
       | They are raw concrete. Surely someone could potentially _paint_
       | them to improve their appearance.
        
       | arbfay wrote:
       | The only valid argument I see is that some brutalist buildings
       | are historically important and even we don't like them today we
       | should keep some of them for future generations to visit and see
       | what we have tried, and disliked.
       | 
       | But to use the environment as an excuse is silly. There are
       | always things that can be done for that: recycling the concrete,
       | rebuild to reduce car dependency and improve energy efficiency,
       | choose more sustainaible materials (like wood) that can easily be
       | replaced in the future (instead of more concrete), etc
        
       | imgabe wrote:
       | Buildings from 50+ years ago are not necessarily the most well
       | insulated and efficient. Nothing is going to unrelease the carbon
       | that was involved in making them, but they also consume energy on
       | an ongoing basis and replacing them with something more efficient
       | might be a net reduction overall.
        
       | int0x29 wrote:
       | If there was ever a case to link to a text only version a
       | discussion of architecture isn't it. The full article with
       | images: https://www.npr.org/2024/08/12/g-s1-6417/brutalism-
       | architect...
        
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