[HN Gopher] Voice is a garden: Margaret Watts Hughes's Victorian...
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       Voice is a garden: Margaret Watts Hughes's Victorian sound
       visualizations
        
       Author : benbreen
       Score  : 76 points
       Date   : 2024-08-09 19:21 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.themarginalian.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.themarginalian.org)
        
       | Jun8 wrote:
       | Somewhat related: resonance figures formed by a vibrating plate,
       | https://americanhistory.si.edu/science/chladni.htm
        
         | ligerzer0 wrote:
         | That site is dated. Even the video won't play because it uses
         | flash
        
           | codetrotter wrote:
           | In fairness they do have a YouTube link below the video
           | itself so that there exists another way to watch it.
        
           | jeroenhd wrote:
           | If it used Flash, Ruffle would've picked them up (great addon
           | if you haven't heard of it already: https://ruffle.rs/)
           | 
           | Looks like this site uses Windows Media Player embeds to play
           | WMV files. I don't know of any big addon that makes those
           | types of embeds work, if the server for the embedded protocol
           | is still even alive.
           | 
           | Thankfully, the videos have been mirrored to Youtube.
        
         | samstave wrote:
         | Cymatics is my spirit frequency!
         | 
         | While I know a fair-enough-surface-level stuff about Cymatics,
         | I really seek the day where I can focus on it more in depth.
         | 
         | What I really love about Cymatic patterns that represent
         | certain frequencies is that they have been seen throughout
         | history in architectural reliefs and carvings.
         | 
         | such as the famous rosslyn chapel:
         | 
         | https://www.tokenrock.com/cymatics/rosslyn-chapel-cubes/
         | 
         | ---
         | 
         | In a famous, meta-physical series of Tomes "Life and teaching
         | of the masters of the far east" - there is a great part about
         | the team of Baird T Spalding addressing a cliffside with a
         | group of monks of some sort. There is a large flat stone that
         | the group assembles on, then the monks form a half circle
         | around the stone, and facing the cliffside, they chant and have
         | some sort of horns which they blow a certain tonal frequency
         | that bounces from the cliff face into the stone they are on,
         | and the frequency resonates to levitate the stone up the cliff
         | to hte temple they are seeking. _(read it in 1992, so deep pull
         | from memory)_
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=588pfqtMtz0
         | 
         | There are the biblical versions on Trumpet and Walls falling -
         | and other sound-based stories of yore.
         | 
         | We doing sonic surgery etc...
         | 
         | And as Tesla famously says 3/69/ - if you want to understand
         | the universe, understand frequency.
         | 
         | ===
         | 
         |  _Movement and Measure_
         | 
         |  _Time expressed through frequency_
         | 
         |  _All is vibration_
        
           | dr_dshiv wrote:
           | I've never been able to source that Tesla quote.
           | 
           | I wanted to use it for a cymatics museum exhibit. Since I'm a
           | stickler for sourcing quotes, I kept looking for something
           | really sweet...
           | 
           | I found an Orphic hymn to Apollo from the 500BC or so, that
           | had been translated by the great Renaissance scholar Marsilio
           | Ficino (the guy who the Medicis hired to translate Greek
           | classics into Latin).
           | 
           | One line stood out: "Tu sphaeram totam, cithara resonante,
           | contemperas" or "The resonance of your guitar attunes the
           | whole world"
           | 
           | Well, what struck me was that Ion of Chios (b 490 BC) wrote
           | that Pythagoras himself had authored a number of Orphic
           | hymns. So, while somewhat speculative, I used: "Your
           | resonance attunes the whole world" and just attributed it to
           | Pythagoras. A bit cheeky, but I had sources!
           | 
           | The cymatic exhibit was funded from a quantum computing
           | grant, as we used the Chladni plates and Faraday waves to
           | illustrate eigenmodes -- drawing parallels to the
           | interference patterns seen in the quantum electron clouds of
           | hydrogen atoms.
           | 
           | Well, it resonated with the audience, in any case!
        
             | samstave wrote:
             | In another thread I posted the following -- on the same
             | wavelength:
             | 
             | (The following is more stream of thought, and poorly
             | organized, but I think you vibe it)
             | 
             | ===
             | 
             | This is interesting, further, as the maths behind the Ghiri
             | Tiles of Muslim Mosques reveals a deeper understanding of
             | the representation of 4D concepts into 2/3D tiling
             | patterns.
             | 
             | https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11235-medieval-
             | islami...
             | 
             | There are a lot of really interesting information on
             | tiling:
             | 
             |  _" Decagonal and Quasi-Crystalline Tilings in Medieval
             | Islamic Architecture"_
             | 
             | https://www.science.org/doi/suppl/10.1126/science.1135491/s
             | u...
             | 
             | I cant quite recall the place I first read about the
             | mathematical theories hidden in the patterns of the Tiling,
             | but its stunning.
             | 
             | https://i.imgur.com/S6rlYwY.png
             | 
             | ---
             | 
             | My point is that there is thousands of years of evidence
             | tying the higher aspects of maths, thought, existence with
             | psychedelics -- and lots regarding the use in Silicon
             | Valley's history - whereby one of the first employees of
             | Cisco Systems attributed LSD to the development of a lot of
             | routing protocol concepts - including BGP.
             | 
             | He was against drug testing at cisco for this reason.
             | 
             | It will be lovely once we can tune an LLM to being able to
             | discern the symbolism that represents higher order math
             | concepts from the patterns, architecture and designs of
             | ancients.
             | 
             | And soon we will be more widely accepting of how it all
             | reverberates into the primary components that make us.
             | 
             | Highly recommend the Science of Sarah Walker - who was JRE
             | and was talking about "assembly theory" and how we are a
             | chemistry emergent intelligence, and while AI is a silicon
             | emergent intelligence, we cant say that its not Life.
             | 
             | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGZ0nums_nU
             | 
             | (Seemingly all disconnected above -- but truly it all is)
             | 
             | Its been a lovely few weeks for knowledge...
             | 
             | ---
             | 
             | https://i.imgur.com/UmNilwV.png
             | 
             | Also, the Hunab Ku (in Mayanism, but also as a cymatic
             | shape... I would like to catalog the patterns found in
             | Cymatics against symbols and carvings, as mentioned.... I
             | actually went to Mexico and toured with Hunbatz Men for a
             | bit in 2001. and there are amazing things about the Chichen
             | Itza Pyramid that I learned from him.
             | 
             | Ill see if I can find anything about that Tesla quote..
             | thats unfortunate. There are some cool pseudo-documentaries
             | on Tesla 3/6/9 - do you have any opinion on those?
             | 
             | ---
             | 
             | I was taught that when youre interpreting symbols, but also
             | when translating such texts, they are not expressed in
             | words - but in _feeling_
             | 
             | So when concepts from more Spiritually connected previous
             | civilizations, the words are a mere shadow of the full
             | vibratory frequency that is represented.
             | 
             | For example, the Mayan Calendar, is taught as the Symbol of
             | projecting your DNA through space.... the tongue out is the
             | projection of the inner to the outer.
             | 
             | "and god _said_ in a _sound_ voice* -- its about projecting
             | vibration, frequency - not flat words....
             | 
             | You may like some of these Mayan Order Lessons (If you've
             | ever read anything by Weed (Rosicrucians) or other Masonic
             | writings... this is of the same sort of mysticism, The
             | Mayan Order has a lot of their initiation rituals based on
             | sound, tones...
             | 
             | (This post is kind of all over the place - as I havent
             | syncopated all my thoughts/comments on it yet...
             | 
             | But here - take a look at these:
             | 
             | https://i.imgur.com/uuQo2QH.png
             | 
             | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-25Xh3eKKAJY1siacTLssH0Gnp
             | f...
             | 
             | https://i.imgur.com/EpH4kaG.jpeg <-- The Mayan Order was in
             | San Antonio tx.. (The Rosicruicians HQ is in San Jose
             | California, and one of their authors, WEED wrote a lot of
             | interesting things about frequency)
        
               | dr_dshiv wrote:
               | If you check out anything by Joscelyn Godwin, you will
               | find TONS of great primary source material. He is really
               | rigorous and goes into it. Like "Music, Mysticism and
               | Magic: a sourcebook" -- but all of his books, really, are
               | filled to the brim with the traditions of mystical
               | sounds.
               | 
               | And the Embassy of the Freemind in Amsterdam is a great
               | contemporary place for these ideas.
        
               | samstave wrote:
               | > Joscelyn Godwin
               | 
               | > _Professor of Music at Colgate University and a widely
               | respected musicologist, Godwin traces the history of the
               | idea, held since ancient times, that the whole cosmos,
               | with its circling planets and stars, is in some way a
               | musical or harmonious entity. The author shows how this
               | concept has continued to inspire philosophers,
               | astronomers, and mystics from antiquity to the present
               | day._
               | 
               | ---
               | 
               | https://i.imgur.com/fnwNhmi.jpeg
               | 
               | https://i.imgur.com/BiQE7fh.png
               | 
               | Wow - _thank you for bringing this to me._
               | 
               | When I was 17 I astral projected and went to space and
               | heard the Music of the Spheres.
        
       | ddingus wrote:
       | This woman was amazing! One I would dearly love to travel back in
       | time to meet.
       | 
       | Of course I would have to be careful and prepare so as to appear
       | plausible and relatable.
       | 
       | There is a beauty in the mind just as there is the body, nature.
       | She was of a notable beauty, uncommon of spirit, adventurous of
       | mind.
       | 
       | Travel well Margaret. Your journey will have been well earned.
        
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