[HN Gopher] Urchin Software Corp: The unlikely origin story of G...
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       Urchin Software Corp: The unlikely origin story of Google
       Analytics, 1996-2005
        
       Author : cpeterso
       Score  : 35 points
       Date   : 2024-08-09 20:32 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (urchin.biz)
 (TXT) w3m dump (urchin.biz)
        
       | holman wrote:
       | I can't really explain how _cool_ Urchin was. I think it was one
       | of the first truly analytical software I used -- not just from a
       | web traffic point of view, but it was a site that used and
       | presented _data_. The graphs, the maps, even the two-column UI
       | was stuff a lot of web developers copied and riffed on back then.
       | It really opened my mind up to a lot of things: design, software
       | as a service (and installable software), even acquisitions in
       | general. Strangely had a large impact on my future career.
        
       | davidwinters wrote:
       | I was so excited to switch from Webtrends to Urchin and back when
       | I still loved Google I was delighted that they bought it out and
       | made it free. Now I wish Google had never touched them.
        
         | PaulStatezny wrote:
         | > Now I wish Google had never touched them.
         | 
         | Would you be willing to elaborate?
        
           | cqqxo4zV46cp wrote:
           | I don't think "Google bad" needs elaboration in 2024.
        
             | jonas21 wrote:
             | Many of the things people think are bad about Google in
             | 2024 (trackers, targeting, slurping up user data, etc) came
             | from Urchin.
        
           | davidwinters wrote:
           | After the switch to Google Analytics the heat map feature was
           | dropped pretty quickly and it was one of the features I
           | really enjoyed. I also think it would have been better for us
           | in the long run to have paid for a service that let us
           | maintain control over our data.
        
         | fellowniusmonk wrote:
         | Oh man, what a shift moving from webtrends to urchin. Between
         | that and following the regular "google dance" on the
         | webmasterworld forums what a time to be alive.
        
       | cut3 wrote:
       | I remember switching from some cgi script web counter to urchin
       | and it was incredible the insights it unlocked. Good nostalgia
       | hit.
        
       | rgrieselhuber wrote:
       | Had a chance to meet Brett at the Google offices shortly after
       | the acquisition. Really nice guy, had a lot of good advice about
       | being a founder.
        
       | spydum wrote:
       | Worked at a hosting company in those years.. urchin was the GOAT.
       | we ran it for every customer, and relied on it heavily for
       | billing our customers. It was crazy fast and elegant. Nothing
       | came close
        
       | aeyes wrote:
       | I'm very surprised that they signed up whole ISPs and got away
       | with it.
       | 
       | I wasn't able to process the daily logs of the tracking pixel of
       | the site I was operating on Urchin 5 within 24 hours. I had a
       | beefy server with a 16 drive raid array but the log processing
       | never used multiple cores.
       | 
       | By that time Google had aquired them, support didn't exist
       | because they wanted you to switch to Google Analytics and it was
       | basically 30k down the drain.
        
       | Lammy wrote:
       | > Our first tradeshow ever, circa 1997.
       | 
       | Pardon my one nitpick: the computer in the photo (PowerMac1,1)
       | was introduced 1999-01-05.
        
       | ot1138 wrote:
       | I loved this retell. Brings back the old days, especially the
       | Google and Yahoo parties of the late 2000's. Those were crazy.
       | They literally carried one of my employees out of a basement rave
       | who had passed out from drinking too much.
        
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