[HN Gopher] The Pesticide Industry's Toxic Lobby
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The Pesticide Industry's Toxic Lobby
Author : PaulHoule
Score : 55 points
Date : 2024-08-07 14:58 UTC (8 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (jacobin.com)
| hulitu wrote:
| > The Pesticide Industry's Toxic Lobby
|
| Every lobby is toxic.
| tpmoney wrote:
| Even the ALCU? The NAACP? The AFL-CIO? The NRA? The Innocence
| Project? I suspect like most things in life, the situation is
| far more complex than can be captured in a simple 4 word rote
| expression.
| alejohausner wrote:
| This article points to another written by Sharon Lerner at the
| intercept[1], which shows that, since the EPA was founded in
| 1974, ALL of the directors of its Office of Chemical Safety and
| Pollution Prevention went on to work for the pesticide industry.
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| All of them! The agency has worked to rubber stamp the pesticide
| industry's proposals from the day it was founded.
|
| What a rotten country we live in.
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| 1. https://theintercept.com/2021/06/30/epa-pesticides-
| exposure-...
| alejohausner wrote:
| Unfortunately, golergka's now-dead comment here has some
| excellent replies, which are buried! Why does HN do that?
| PaulHoule wrote:
| I try not to second guess the moderation. I think at the
| individual post level it is often wrong but on average it is
| good.
|
| My feeling was that I was not so happy with the discussion this
| post spawned, but I thought it got better over time.
|
| An odd thing about it is that posts about "identity politics"
| are frequently identified as pernicious and get flagged very
| quickly on HN. "Politics" today seems to be a matter of
| choosing issues to fit your tribe as opposed to choosing a
| tribe that fits your issues
|
| https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/05/23/views-of-the...
|
| There's another axis one could draw between, say, Marx and
| Milton Freedman which was an important political axis in the
| West until the fall of the Soviet Union but until 2016 or so
| there was a consensus that Milton Freedman had won. You got two
| of the biggest welfare expansions in Bush's Medicare Part D and
| Obama's Affordable Care Act but both of those were
| fundamentally privatized and, I think, took a bit of legitimacy
| out of the system because they created profit for special
| interests. Clinton very much continued with the direction
| Reagan set out in.
|
| Since 2016 partisans of both political parties are freaked out
| about the rise of China, our seeming inability to do anything
| about it (where are photogs going to get drones in the US if
| relations sour with China?), extreme monopolization, etc. Both
| parties are moving to a more interventionist stance so again on
| "who controls the means of production?" you aren't really
| getting a choice.
|
| The two most important splits in Trotskyism post 1970 I think
| were (1) the issues that caused the SWP to drop out of the 4th
| international in the 1980s which the consequence that there is
| no US affiliate of the 4th international and (2) identity
| politics vs class politics. Jacobin has a definite opinion on
| that last one.
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