[HN Gopher] Pineboards AI HAT enables Hailo-8L and NVMe boot sto...
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       Pineboards AI HAT enables Hailo-8L and NVMe boot storage on a Pi 5
        
       Author : sthlmb
       Score  : 24 points
       Date   : 2024-08-02 20:08 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (pineboards.io)
 (TXT) w3m dump (pineboards.io)
        
       | NewJazz wrote:
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       | 
       | Seems they aren't affiliated with Pine64 either...
        
       | jsheard wrote:
       | Manufacturers are pushing the Pi 5s PCIe interface to the
       | absolute limit now, well beyond what's practical, but it's fun at
       | least.
       | 
       | https://geekworm.com/products/x1011
       | 
       |  _Four_ NVMe drives multiplexed onto a single PCIe lane? Sure,
       | why not!
       | 
       | https://pineboards.io/products/hat-upcity-lite-for-raspberry...
       | 
       | The OP also has a board which breaks the lane out to a full size
       | PCIe slot, so you can put a 4090 in there. You shouldn't, but you
       | can.
        
       | varispeed wrote:
       | I don't know. I think this is a bit pointless. I'd rather see "a
       | hat" for Intel N100.
       | 
       | I have Pi 5 and I wish I bought N100. It's unstable, loses
       | internet connection after few days and I have to manually power
       | cycle it. NVMe is patchy, I had to buy a few modules until I
       | found one that is working, but I don't trust it.
       | 
       | Seems like RPi 5 was rushed to stay relevant, but it wasn't
       | thought through.
        
         | jsheard wrote:
         | Those small AI modules use the same form factor as standard
         | WiFi cards so you don't really need a specialized hat, you
         | could just plug that module straight into many N100 machines in
         | lieu of WiFi.
         | 
         | edit: as mentioned below, make sure the machine you buy has a
         | _socketed_ WiFi module.
        
           | person4268 wrote:
           | That might not work; I recently disassembled a mini PC with
           | an Intel N95, and the wifi chip was soldered and integrated
           | into the mainboard. Now, if the SSD was NVMe, I suppose you
           | could use that for PCIe (possibly with some sort of adapter?)
           | and boot from some other form of storage, of course.
        
           | linotype wrote:
           | Yeah just make sure to buy one of the models with a 2.5"
           | drive for storage, or one with two NVME slots. Then you get
           | to keep WiFi as well.
        
         | moffkalast wrote:
         | Any N100 board that has a PCIe connector exposed is basically
         | mini ITX sized, which kind of defeats the whole purpose of a
         | SBC imo.
         | 
         | There are lots of problems with the Pi 5 (the absurd power
         | draw, the lack of eMMC, breaking 10 years of GPIO
         | compatibility), but the PCIe connector is definitely not one of
         | them. In fact it's probably the best thing about it by far
         | because it sets up a new standard, and soon every random SBC
         | will have the same PCIe out port so they can run all of these
         | compatible boards. Some might even support more than one lane
         | eventually.
        
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