[HN Gopher] Australia starts peanut allergy treatment for babies
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       Australia starts peanut allergy treatment for babies
        
       Author : peutetre
       Score  : 63 points
       Date   : 2024-07-31 03:43 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.bbc.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bbc.com)
        
       | praseodym wrote:
       | In The Netherlands it is recommended to introduce peanut and egg
       | to babies between 4 and 6 months, to reduce the chances of food
       | allergy.
       | 
       | More information (in Dutch):
       | https://www.voedingscentrum.nl/nl/service/vraag-en-antwoord/...
        
         | mikeyouse wrote:
         | That's the current guidance in the US as well.
         | 
         | https://mana.md/peanut-allergies-may-affect-your-child/
        
         | soperj wrote:
         | Australia changed their recommendations to match this years
         | ago, and the incidence of allergy didn't change measurably.
        
       | darth_avocado wrote:
       | I always think about the low incidence of peanut allergies in
       | developing countries and wonder if the mother's diet during
       | pregnancy has an effect on allergies in children? Has this been
       | researched? Because instead of introducing peanuts and eggs to
       | babies, introducing it to mothers is almost a no brainer.
        
         | jagged-chisel wrote:
         | Only if mom isn't allergic.
        
         | Workaccount2 wrote:
         | It most likely has to do with how bored our immune systems are.
         | 
         | We evolved to be constantly dirty, and we live in an extremely
         | clean society. When your immune system has a lot to fight, it
         | doesn't worry to much about dumb shit like pollen and peanuts.
        
           | colechristensen wrote:
           | Clean vs. dirty isn't even the right way to think about it.
           | We used to be immersed in an environment full of life, and
           | now we live in mostly sterile environments free of life
           | except for maybe some of the first wave colonizer specialist
           | microorganisms. You are filled and covered with life that
           | isn't from your own genes, and that microbiome is now mostly
           | disconnected from the biosphere.
           | 
           | I get some weird skin issues sometimes which are almost
           | magically fixed if I visit a natural body of water... it's
           | clearly an issue of my immune system interacting unfavorably
           | with a microbiome which is out of whack.
        
             | supertofu wrote:
             | How fascinating. This reminds me that my autoimmune
             | condition went into a brief and mysterious remission two
             | summers ago, when I spent most weekends swimming in creeks.
             | I will have to see if increased creek swimming this summer
             | will help my autoimmune symptoms...
        
               | nytesky wrote:
               | Yeah getting hooked up with some bugs from the creek
               | keeps your immune system occupied.
               | 
               | Hookworms are another option; maybe two generations ago
               | kids regularly walked barefoot in grass and was pretty
               | common.
               | 
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy
        
             | kristianp wrote:
             | Just curious, is it the ocean, or a fresh water body that
             | helps?
        
           | AlbertCory wrote:
           | About 20 years a doctor told me that this was a theory that
           | wasn't widely accepted YET, but it deserved to be taken
           | seriously. Now it's much more mainstream.
        
         | IncreasePosts wrote:
         | No link because I'm on mobile, but I remember reading about how
         | peanut allergy in Israel is nearly non-existent. This is
         | notable because:
         | 
         | 1) Israelis come from all over the world, and the incidence of
         | peanut allergies are lower in, say, Sephardic Jews living in
         | Israel compared to Sephardic Jews living in Spain.
         | 
         | 2) a very popular snack there for kids(but also adults) are
         | these peanut butter corn-puffs called "Bambas"(like, literally
         | 25% of the snack market is this one snack)
        
           | type_enthusiast wrote:
           | Strictly speaking, if all babies eat peanuts, you'll get to
           | "nearly non-existent" peanut allergy one way or another. But
           | you need better data than that to conclude that the change
           | comes from allergy prevention, rather than... allergy
           | "removal".
        
             | Vecr wrote:
             | You think Israel could cover something like that up?
        
               | makeitdouble wrote:
               | I don't think parent is hinting at a conspiracy, and more
               | at "natural" selection based on omnipresence of peanuts.
               | 
               | With no knowledge about how i goes for babies, the
               | question would be how a 2~3 month allergic kid [0] would
               | react to peanuts including, when not directly ingested.
               | If it had adverse effects it would go along the line of
               | what parent is describing.
               | 
               | [0] can kids that age already be allergic to peanuts ?
        
               | marcosdumay wrote:
               | So, at the end of a long thread full of information that
               | discards genetics, your explanation for it is...
               | genetics.
        
         | nytesky wrote:
         | I am kinda of curious about populations where peanuts aren't
         | common at all. I certainly didn't have many fancy nuts (i know
         | peanuts aren't nuts) until well into adulthood. Why were there
         | not wide spread peanut allergies among migratory populations?
        
         | ilickpoolalgae wrote:
         | Allergies are weird and our understanding of them is very
         | incomplete. My son has/had a peanut allergy (very successful
         | oral immunotherapy, knock on wood) and I ended up doing a lot
         | of research. One study that is particular interesting is this
         | one: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26728850/
         | 
         | It shows that east asian children, who very rarely have nut
         | allergies in their home countries, develop nut allergies at a
         | higher rate than non-asian children when born in Australia
         | while east asian children who immigrate to Australia after
         | their early infancy continue to maintain very low rates of nut
         | allergies.
        
       | eskibars wrote:
       | Our son is very allergic to peanuts and less so to cashew, and
       | sesame. We went through oral immunotherapy and it's been
       | absolutely life changing. He used to need an epi pen in case of
       | chance encounter, but now he eats 2 whole peanut m&ms every day
       | to keep his dosage up. It's been difficult finding an allergist
       | in Germany that's willing to accept this and move forward
       | 
       | Obviously everyone's mileage will vary, but I'm happy to see this
       | treatment being more widely adopted
        
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