[HN Gopher] Olympic men's triathlon postponed due to river pollu...
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       Olympic men's triathlon postponed due to river pollution
        
       Author : rntn
       Score  : 27 points
       Date   : 2024-07-30 16:31 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | __turbobrew__ wrote:
       | The local health and triathlon authorities here set an e coli
       | limit of ~100 instead of the 900 in the article.
       | 
       | We have the luxury of vast amounts pf unpolluted freshwater
       | however, so we can be more stringent. I can't imagine many bodies
       | of water in Europe have less than 100 units of e coli.
        
       | lm28469 wrote:
       | It's ok, they have a plan B, make it a duathlon instead of a
       | triathlon. After all it only costed 1.4 billion euros to the tax
       | payers, no biggie
        
         | RandomThoughts3 wrote:
         | It's not like the investment will have been in vain even in the
         | triathlon is cancelled. Paris would have had to make them to
         | comply with the upcoming European regulation on urban
         | wastewater anyway (ok they would have had quite some time to do
         | so but still) [1]. Plus, if we ranked all the investments made
         | for the Olympic Games in history by how useful they were, I'm
         | fairly sure a waste water holding basin would do pretty well.
         | 
         | [1] https://environment.ec.europa.eu/topics/water/urban-
         | wastewat...
        
         | tacticalturtle wrote:
         | Building the infrastructure to prevent raw sewage from spilling
         | into the river after rain storms seems like a worthy goal for
         | the tax payers, regardless of hitting the Olympic deadline.
         | 
         | And it's a goal of Parisian officials that has predated the
         | Olympics by at least 30 years:
         | 
         | > In 1990, then Paris mayor and later French President Jacques
         | Chirac declared he would launch a major cleanup of the Seine,
         | and swim in it
         | 
         | https://time.com/6261729/seine-clean-up-paris-olympics-2024/
        
       | nradov wrote:
       | This was so predictable, and so unnecessary. The Paris Olympics
       | officials have known for years that there was no guarantee that
       | the Seine would meet water quality requirements. They had plenty
       | of time to select an alternate backup site near Paris. The fact
       | that they failed to do so was pure vanity and politics. There are
       | a number of other bodies of water that have hosted successful
       | triathlons in recent years. The surfing events were way off in
       | Tahiti so it obviously wasn't a requirement to do everything
       | within Paris. I feel bad for the athletes who trained hard for
       | years only to be jerked around at the last minute by lazy and
       | incompetent officials.
        
         | rat9988 wrote:
         | They didn't not fail. They have alternatives ready. And second,
         | the goal was not only to clean water, but to make it
         | sustainable long term. That's a lot of work on the foundations.
         | It is foreseen to end in 2025, and I'm happy they did it. For
         | these games, they said beforehand, it's only possible if it
         | doesn't rain much. No luck. But I'm happy they took on this
         | endeavour.
        
           | below43 wrote:
           | I was in Paris a few weeks ago after days of no rain and
           | stood watching the river from a bridge. It looked absolutely
           | filthy - very grubby, with the occasional piece of rubbish
           | floating by (pretty much what you would expect a river in a
           | city to look like). And that's before adding large amounts of
           | rain (which must increase sewage and farm waste flow into the
           | river substantially). I suspect the river may one day be
           | clean, but I think there's a lot of work needed upstream
           | before it's ever going to be in a suitable, safe state to
           | ingest while swimming.
        
           | nradov wrote:
           | The organizers absolutely failed. Practice swim sessions
           | already had to be cancelled. Their "alternative" is to
           | postpone the events to another day and there's no guarantee
           | that the Seine will meet water quality requirements. The
           | other "alternative" they mentioned is to cancel the swim and
           | only do the run and bike portions. That would be completely
           | stupid and turn it into a different sport (duathlon rather
           | than triathlon).
           | 
           | Improving long term water quality is a nice goal but has
           | nothing to do with the Olympics. Let's not confuse the issue
           | and make excuses for laziness and incompetence. Competent
           | organizers would have had a backup alternate venue lined up
           | years in advance. No one should be happy about this failure.
        
         | RandomThoughts3 wrote:
         | I think the investments and political images generated by the
         | Olympics are a lot (and I mean a lot) more important than
         | having two dozen guys race to a line.
         | 
         | Clearly the actual sport is subsidiary to the overall nature of
         | the event in the Olympics. That's why everything surrounding
         | the sport takes so much space.
        
       | Am4TIfIsER0ppos wrote:
       | But the mayor took a swim in it! That wouldn't be a load of horse
       | shit would it?
        
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