[HN Gopher] What Rupert Murdoch Owns, and How He Built His Media...
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       What Rupert Murdoch Owns, and How He Built His Media Empire
        
       Author : mooreds
       Score  : 20 points
       Date   : 2024-07-25 19:10 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | idiotsecant wrote:
       | If there's an example of another human who has had more influence
       | on the worldview of more people, I don't know who it could be.
       | Murdoch might be some kind of media genius or just right place
       | right time, but either way his influence is, sadly in my view,
       | unprecedented.
        
         | aschearer wrote:
         | Are we excluding religious founders? Even still, in no
         | particular order and not exhaustive: Marx, Freud, Rand,
         | Nietzsche, Skinner, Locke, Socrates, Darwin.
        
           | threatofrain wrote:
           | Many of these people also have the power of durability. We
           | shall see if Rupert Murdoch's legacy endures.
        
           | idiotsecant wrote:
           | You think? Maybe indirectly, as in those people influenced
           | people to make decisions who in turn made things like
           | political policies but none of these people had the _direct_
           | popular influence in terms of raw numbers that Murdoch did, I
           | would argue.
        
             | aschearer wrote:
             | I mean if direct influence is the metric -- Fox has low
             | millions according to Google. What do you think, 5 million
             | people in a year under Murdoch's "direct" influence? Looks
             | like Taylor Swift sold 4.35 million concert tickets in her
             | latest tour. So who has more influence? Hard to say, in my
             | opinion. We'd have to start unpacking the content of the
             | information being propagated. How much of the information
             | is novel? How receptive to new information is the audience?
             | What is more impactful a news segment or a lyric? Seems
             | impossible.
             | 
             | Or going about this another way, who was more influential:
             | Hearst/Pulitzer or Freud? In my view, Freud flipped the
             | world on its head meanwhile the other two are simply
             | "yellow journalism."
        
           | SketchySeaBeast wrote:
           | I would say that the real-time nature of Murdoch's power is
           | at least, if not more, unprecedented.
        
         | linearrust wrote:
         | > If there's an example of another human who has had more
         | influence on the worldview of more people, I don't know who it
         | could be.
         | 
         | Meta, Alphabet, Bytedance, etc (possibly twitter/x)
         | individually have far greater reach and influence than
         | Murdoch's properties.
        
       | Scoundreller wrote:
       | Surprisingly nothing about their subsidiary's (alleged) paytv
       | hacking operations where they released hacks for competitor's
       | satellite TV services, and even against some of their own Paytv
       | security products' customers (to sell them more electronic
       | counter-measures and card swaps).
       | 
       | http://murdochspirates.com/ (yeah, it's one of the original
       | reporter's hand-written html and no ssl, but lots of court
       | documents hosted there).
       | 
       | https://www.wired.com/2012/03/murdoch-tv-hacking/
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       | https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/rup...
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       | https://www.reuters.com/article/business/corrected-update-1-...
        
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