[HN Gopher] The most, and least, walkable cities
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The most, and least, walkable cities
Author : pavel_lishin
Score : 26 points
Date : 2024-07-25 15:55 UTC (7 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.economist.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.economist.com)
| its_ethan wrote:
| https://archive.is/rgGaX
| wyldfire wrote:
| Unfortunately, the table with the actual data is not functional
| here and it's one of the more interesting parts of the article.
| its_ethan wrote:
| Yea none of the interactive stuff appears to be functional :\
| snapcaster wrote:
| Can someone summarize this for us? even with the archive link I
| can't see the data
| shaftway wrote:
| My take-aways were:
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| - Americans drive
|
| - Non-European countries walk / transit
|
| - Very large cities aggregate a lot of kinds of living that
| skew the results towards the common modality for that country
| (e.g. New York and London).
| kv85s wrote:
| https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041202...
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| The triangular visualizations are kinda nifty.
| lmihaig wrote:
| Data and more visualisations here
| https://citiesmoving.com/visualizations/
| thriftwy wrote:
| Walking, scootering or taking transit to work became of
| considerable less interest to me once I became fully remote.
|
| What is interesting to me now is whether my children will able to
| walk to school and back, since that one is not remote, and I hope
| it won't be.
| aos wrote:
| Counter-point: walking and taking public transit became
| considerably _more_ interesting for me once I became fully
| remote. However, I do live in an area with walkable amenities
| (coffee shops, grocery stores, etc).
| thriftwy wrote:
| Sure, but unfortunately, the linked website doesn't ask about
| that.
| pesenti wrote:
| Interactive visualization with free access:
| https://citiesmoving.com/visualizations/
| jerlam wrote:
| The difference between the US and even its northern neighbor,
| Canada, seems stark.
|
| That being said, how does Manhattan have a greater percentage
| of car trips than NYC? Are hundreds of thousands of people
| taking Taxis and Ubers?
| linearrust wrote:
| > Are hundreds of thousands of people taking Taxis and Ubers?
|
| Probably. Not just the tourists, but business folks. I
| remember people would regularly take a taxi for a business
| meeting only a couple blocks away. I guess if the company is
| paying for it, why not.
| systemtest wrote:
| I noticed Utrecht in the third place. Having worked there, I can
| agree with that. However, with Utrecht being so expensive to live
| in I experienced that most people that work in Utrecht, don't
| live there. They live in 'affordable' smaller cities and villages
| nearby. And with industrial estates like Papendorp and Science
| Park having sub-par public transit, those people often take the
| car. If you live in a place like Cothen, it is 19 minutes by car
| to Science Park or 53 minutes by public transit. Papendorp is
| over an hour by public transit and 18 minutes by car.
|
| So while 75% of the people living in Utrecht are likely to travel
| to work by bicycle or even walking, I'd say that the people
| working in Utrecht are far less likely to travel there by
| bicycle, walking or even public transit. Resulting in daily heavy
| traffic on the nearby four highways of Utrecht (A2, A12, A28,
| A27)
| user568439 wrote:
| Utrecht is fantastic and even if you get to the city by car,
| the most convenient is to drop it in the park and ride outside
| for 7 euros a day including public transport to the center.
|
| All cities should have a downtown where the only vehicles are
| taxis and buses and some neighbour.
|
| The neighbourhoods around the center are also designed in a way
| that crossing them by car is possible but very inconvenient.
| Going from Lombok to Wittevrouwen is always around 10 minutes
| by bike but can be more than 30 by car during busy hours.
| mppm wrote:
| This is not so much about which cities are walkable, but a survey
| of how people actually do get around there. Big difference. I've
| browsed the dataset and Auckland rates as less "walkable" than
| Kuala Lumpur. Yes, Kiwis do get around by car a lot, but Auckland
| is still a perfectly pleasant, walkable city. On the other hand,
| I've never been in a more pedestrian-hostile place than KL.
| chung8123 wrote:
| The city/cities I have lived in would not be considered walkable
| by many people. The thing is if you want walkable you pick your
| location in the city to make it walkable for you. I have always
| been able to find a place that can cover a large % of my trips by
| foot. I love cars and still own them, I just prefer to run my
| errands on foot.
| throwaway22032 wrote:
| I don't think that an overall statistic works very well for this.
|
| I live in London and I probably do split my time very roughly 1/3
| ish across the three modes as stated.
|
| But that's because I'm doing different things.
|
| The tube is used to go into town, meet up with urban living
| friends, go to museums, visit specialist high end shops.
|
| The car is used to go to larger stores like the supermarket, big
| shopping centres, DIY stores, to go out of town, go to the golf
| range, visit friends and family.
|
| Walking gets me to the corner shop, to local friends, to the
| park, the last mile on public transport.
|
| It's very walkable/cyclable, I just don't spend my life in a 1-5
| mile radius.
| joaquincabezas wrote:
| Correction (May 13th, 2024): A previous version of this article
| stated that two Spanish cities made the top ten. In fact, it was
| four. Sorry.
|
| lol, I see what you did there
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