[HN Gopher] Tesla Q2 2024 Update [pdf]
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       Tesla Q2 2024 Update [pdf]
        
       Author : mfiguiere
       Score  : 18 points
       Date   : 2024-07-23 20:10 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (digitalassets.tesla.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (digitalassets.tesla.com)
        
       | andoma wrote:
       | 404 for me?
        
         | jjbinx007 wrote:
         | Working okay for me
         | 
         | (Firefox for Windows if that matters)
        
       | artemonster wrote:
       | "FSD is just around the corner, guys. each tesla converted to
       | robotaxi will make you 42069% returns a month, buy stonks!!" - a
       | prayer from a typical elmo fan. I wonder when this clownfest
       | finally implodes
        
         | chroma wrote:
         | I bought a Model 3 back in 2020 and got the self-driving option
         | mostly on a whim. Until recently, it was a handy feature on
         | freeways but a gimmick on surface streets. Ever since the
         | update a couple months ago, it actually does drive itself. I
         | can't remember the last time I intervened. If I did, it was
         | probably to make the car do something dangerous or technically
         | in violation of traffic laws, as you have to be aggressive
         | sometimes in city driving.
         | 
         | You also have people like John Carmack saying, "I have made
         | multiple two hour drives without touching the wheel." His main
         | complaint is that the car makes him touch the steering wheel if
         | he's wearing sunglasses (because it can't track his eyes to
         | determine whether he's paying attention).
         | 
         | I don't think owners will rent out their cars as taxis any time
         | soon, but the technology really does seem to be there.
         | 
         | 1. https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1814687334366912530
        
           | llamaimperative wrote:
           | The technology really _isn 't_ there. Individuals' subjective
           | experience of safety is totally irrelevant when you're
           | talking about a system as huge as "automobile travel."
           | 
           | Even 99.999% reliable miles is still dangerous at 3.2
           | trillion miles per year
        
         | moralestapia wrote:
         | Even if that was true ...,
         | 
         | What's the issue with people buying the stocks they like?
         | 
         | (as long as it's not $GME of course, we wouldn't want to push
         | hedge funds to illegally manipulate the market to stay afloat
         | :P)
        
       | loufe wrote:
       | I think it's pretty bizarre to see a financial document that
       | reads more as an advertisement for the business as a consumer
       | wanting to buy their product rather than actual financial
       | performance details.
       | 
       | Also I am so certain the humanoid robot is not very productive
       | and someone in management pushed hard to get it on the line and
       | photographed just before the Q2 report deadline, what a joke.
        
       | FireBeyond wrote:
       | "We don't talk about the Tesla Semi".
       | 
       | > Preparation of Semi factory continues and is on track to begin
       | production by end of 2025.
       | 
       | Okay. That's why you've delivered 36 of the 100 units that were
       | scheduled for seven years ago (2017), and none since then, which
       | is why PepsiCo, Sysco, UPS and Walmart have all since terminated
       | their agreements.
       | 
       | But it's "on track". Sure.
       | 
       | Last time Musk tried to throw out an excuse for this, it wasn't
       | production capacity, it was "battery availability". Meanwhile:
       | 
       | > In Q2, we produced over 50% more 4680 cells than in Q1 and
       | continued to see cost improvements.
       | 
       | > Both Megapack and Powerwall achieved record deployment in Q2,
       | resulting in 9.4 GWh of total storage deployments. Overall, the
       | Energy business achieved record revenues and gross profit in Q2.
       | 
       | "We're breaking so many records in battery availability and
       | production capacity, you guys! We just haven't been able to make
       | any for the Semi in seven years."
        
       | ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
       | I think the 7% yoy decline of sales has the reasoning as "due to
       | pricing, attractive financing options and mix" but I think it is
       | a bit dishonest if Elon's political shift to the right,
       | alienating the left who think climate change is a problem and
       | catering to the guy who says electric cars can go to hell and
       | "drill baby drill" isn't part of the narrative.
        
         | givemeethekeys wrote:
         | This would be true if EV sales in general were up, or if
         | competitor's EV sales were up (or, uhh.. less down than Tesla).
         | 
         | Tesla seems to be doing better than the rest.
        
       | legitster wrote:
       | > In 2024, our vehicle volume growth rate may be notably lower
       | than the growth rate achieved in 2023, as our teams work on the
       | launch of the next generation vehicle and other products. In
       | 2024, the growth rates of energy storage deployments and revenue
       | in our Energy Generation and Storage business should outpace the
       | Automotive business.
       | 
       | Pretty bleak YoY numbers for car sales. They are pretty open
       | about pivoting away from cars at least.
        
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