[HN Gopher] Satellite Drag Analysis During the May 2024 Geomagne...
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       Satellite Drag Analysis During the May 2024 Geomagnetic Storm
        
       Author : croes
       Score  : 47 points
       Date   : 2024-07-21 11:11 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arxiv.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arxiv.org)
        
       | perihelions wrote:
       | If their altitude is low enough to begin with, this atmospheric
       | expansion can drag satellites all the way into reentry.
       | 
       | https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites-lost-geomag... (
       | _" SpaceX says a geomagnetic storm just doomed 40 Starlink
       | internet satellites"_ (2022))
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30267587 ( _" Starlink lost
       | 40 satellites to a geomagnetic storm"_)
       | 
       | In the OP paper, the 486 km satellite (fig. 5) dropped down about
       | 300 meters. The Starlink satellites that were lost were at 210
       | km. (For mass optimization, they're released at below operational
       | altitude, and use slow, electric propulsion to get to their
       | nominal orbits).
        
         | sandworm101 wrote:
         | >> mass optimization, they're released at below operational
         | altitude
         | 
         | Literally everything to do with spaceflight is connected to
         | mass optimization. The more practical reason is to better
         | separate the sats within the orbital plane. They sit in the
         | lower/faster orbit until in position and the last in trail
         | boosts into the higher/slower orbit. Put them all into the
         | final orbit and they would all be bunched up. Put them too high
         | and you are just wasting fuel springing them back down.
        
       | lifeisstillgood wrote:
       | Sometimes I despair of humans, sticking all our eggs into a
       | Crowdstrike basket, or billions of people condemned to wars and
       | poverty, and then, we go and do things like "hey we can measure
       | the freaking Sun's solar storms from actual space vehicles we
       | have put into orbit around this planet"
       | 
       | We have come a long way from James Watt thinking "you know we
       | could keep some of that hot gas" - it's not all to do with the
       | free energy boost we have been digging out of the ground. We do
       | have our moments.
       | 
       | Just less wars and more co-operation please.
        
         | kidme5 wrote:
         | the sad thing is Starlink satellites have a significant impact
         | on one of the scariest human threats-- nuclear war.
         | 
         | https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1dgyujd/comment/l8...
        
           | lifeisstillgood wrote:
           | So that link seems to be suggesting that US funding for space
           | exploration and NASA has a significant nuclear weapons
           | component.
           | 
           | I mean my kids are covering this in their History GCSEs. It's
           | not a secret. And if you believe in / agree with escalation
           | management strategy it's a good thing (unless you think
           | humans should all unite together and turn swords into
           | ploughshares which I do agree with, just hard to get from
           | Here to there, but would love to see it)
        
             | wongarsu wrote:
             | I think the core is how we stand towards missile defense.
             | During the Cold War the prevailing opinion was that
             | mutually assured destruction was the best strategy. Missile
             | defense undermines that strategy and was thus treated as a
             | worse offense than building first-strike weapons.
             | 
             | Now the threat landscape has shifted. There is a closing
             | window of opportunity where the US is the sole superpower
             | and could get away with deploying such a system without
             | much pushback. Whether it's a good idea is debatable.
        
           | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
           | We already have the X37 for unconventional nuke delivery.
           | There is no need for a conspiracy with SpaceX for existing
           | capabilities.
        
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