[HN Gopher] Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in ant...
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Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government
protests
Author : perihelions
Score : 292 points
Date : 2024-07-19 15:22 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| jamal-kumar wrote:
| I think it's worth noting why this is happening. The country has
| been giving out degrees and jobs to people who instead of working
| and studying hard, to descendants of veterans in the country's
| war against pakistan, and this level of nepotism has been going
| on since the 70s which as you can easily imagine is not great for
| those who see the value in getting these "basic livelihood for
| hard work" things. So when people started protesting recently,
| because for anyone with half a brain this is completely wrong,
| the people without half a brain who benefit from this completely
| fucked system responded by killing and raping students and now
| there's no internet.
|
| This is definitely how you drain a country of all its competent
| people very fast by the way.
| esafak wrote:
| People who run a country into the ground are happy to maintain
| the status quo as long as they're getting their share? Who
| knew!?
| adolph wrote:
| Conjecture: there is no exit from despotry because more than
| deriving happiness from the current state, the despot fears
| dissolution. A counter-example might be post apartheid South
| Africa or Idi Amin's exile, but there are sufficient examples
| of worse personal and family outcomes to rule out simple
| projections of psychopaths.
| david_shi wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Chhatra_League
|
| The ruling party seems to be allied with a student paramilitary
| to help act as their enforcers.
|
| "Chhatra League distributes dormitory seats at Chittagong
| University instead of authorities. Only those who join Chhatra
| League after being enrolled, get the chance to stay in the
| residential halls."
| alephnerd wrote:
| Slight quibble - the student paramilitary IS part of Hasina's
| party (BAP).
|
| It's the student wing.
|
| In South Asia, all party student wings are basically
| paramilitaries and gangs.
| david_shi wrote:
| It reminds me a lot of the Red Guards - the greatest
| disaster could come from the party losing control of these
| groups.
| Karrot_Kream wrote:
| The original Indian and Pakistani founders had Soviet
| education and influences. Moreover the Comintern was one
| of the only fora at the time that was openly in support
| of decolonization. The similarities aren't coincidental.
| pmarreck wrote:
| > The general secretary of Bangladesh Chhatra League
| Jahangirnagar University unit, Jasimuddin Manik and his
| followers celebrated the rape of 100th girls including at
| least 20 students of the university in 1998.
|
| Is it poverty that brings out the worst in people? Or
| something else?
| kelipso wrote:
| Plenty of rich people celebrating rapes and children being
| bombed in Gaza, so I doubt it's poverty.
| mtalantikite wrote:
| Important to note it wasn't just a 'war against Pakistan', but
| a war for independence from Pakistan [1], which also included a
| genocide against Bengalis by Pakistan and their allies [2].
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Liberation_War
|
| [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide
| pmarreck wrote:
| from that link about the Bangladesh genocide (wow, I never
| heard of this):
|
| > Pakistan's imams declared Bengali Hindu women to be "war
| booty";[11][12] and Pakistani fatwa were issued legitimizing
| Bengali Hindu women as spoils of war.[12][13] Women who were
| targeted often died in Pakistani captivity or committed
| suicide, while others fled to India.
|
| This is based on a non-contextual reading of Quran 4:24,
| Quran 8:69, Quran 23:5-6:, Quran 33:50 and various hadiths,
| which continue to be taken literally (when it is convenient
| to do so) by belligerents, hundreds of years after they were
| written. I refuse to cite them here because they are
| offensive to humanitarian/modern ethical worldviews (and
| because I do not wish to play a game of moral relativism).
| Jun8 wrote:
| I'll provide the links for the two suras cited above for
| the curious:
|
| An Nisa (the women) - https://quran.com/4,
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-Nisa. In dowry and
| inheritance matters it's actually quite advanced for its
| age.
|
| Al Anfal (the spoils of war) - https://quran.com/8,
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal. These are, of
| course, orthogonal to our moral values but not more
| depraved than bounty customs employed hundreds of years
| afterwards.
|
| Prophet Mohammed himself took one fifth of the spoils,
| including taking women as wives, eg see Safiyya bint
| Huyayy, who was his tenth wife after her tribe was killed
| (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safiyya_bint_Huyayy).
|
| I'm missing your point about adhering to these "when it's
| convenient". This was standard practice for Muslim armies
| for hundreds of years afterwards (of course others did the
| same).
| jl6 wrote:
| Degrees as well as jobs? Are Bangladeshi universities diploma
| mills?
| trilbyglens wrote:
| Country probably entirely underwater in the next 50 years
| anyways....
| sbdaman wrote:
| There is also a widespread cellular outage. It's very, very
| difficult (near impossible) to reach anyone in the country right
| now.
| chad1n wrote:
| I've talked with a guy from Bangladesh over the last 3 days and
| he said that he was at a party and he was about to be killed, so
| he stopped going and started filming how other students are being
| beaten by local police. The fact that the government blocked the
| internet is pretty sad and I wish that no more people die.
| arrowsmith wrote:
| > he was at a party and he was about to be killed
|
| I feel like your story is really missing some details.
| pvarangot wrote:
| I mean, those are the best parties
| hackerlytest wrote:
| Some context: Students are protesting to reform the quota system.
| Which was abolished in 2018 after protest but recently brought
| back again. The Quota system basically reserves 56% of public
| sector jobs, i.e. 30% to relatives of war veteran.
|
| The war happened in 1971. To get public job and avail the quota,
| it must be their 3rd or 4th generation now. Which is plain
| unfair.
|
| But it's not about that, the gov loyalists and their goons fake
| these veteran certificates to land these jobs. Bangladesh is one
| of the most corrupted countries in the world after all. So real
| veteran relatives are seldom the beneficiary.
|
| These students just wanted to reform this system. But our fascist
| gov and their goons used force and killed 50+ unarmed students
| until yesterday (3 from my alma mater alone.) This was completely
| unprovoked and unnecessary. Basically any forms of dissent have
| been dealt with this way since 2009. No one can criticize or
| protest the big brother.
|
| We have a dictatorship since 2009. People are angry - due to
| corruption, inflation, joblessness and tyranny. This is just some
| outburst of it.
|
| When you see the videos how the police are killing teenagers and
| university students in the road - our future generation - no one
| can tolerate this.
|
| Now the fascist gov has closed all internet and phone connection
| to outside world. I can't contact my family anymore. I don't know
| their well being.
|
| There is of course more to it. But this is the summary.
| xeromal wrote:
| Thank you for the information. I'm sorry for you and your
| family. Are public jobs so numerous that a lot of people
| survive off of them?
| geodel wrote:
| Nope. It won't be numerous but grab whatever of the tiny pie
| is the point. I am from neigboring country but situation is
| same for jobs. For 10 govt job, 10K people can show up and
| create riot like situation in little time.
| alephnerd wrote:
| > Now the fascist gov has closed all internet
|
| I agree that Sheikh Hasina is extremely authoritarian and
| corrupt dictator but imo JeI are the actual fascists, and the
| BNP has absolutely been enabling them.
|
| That said, I agree with you that Hasina's authoritarianism
| needs to end.
|
| Ideally all these old fossils (Hasina, Zia, Rahman, etc) need
| to be purged and the actual youth (who are the majority of
| Bangladesh) get a chance to have their voice in power.
|
| It's a handful of elite 70 year olds who have been running a
| country where the median age is 25 and are ruining it due to
| their own personal drama from the 70s and 80s.
| Karrot_Kream wrote:
| Yeah I think "fascist" is too much for any actor not JeI but
| authoritarian is right. They've cut off Internet and telecom
| access after all, a dangerous game given how physically close
| they are to West Bengal.
| BadHumans wrote:
| > Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist
| political ideology and movement,characterized by a
| dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism,
| forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural
| social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for
| the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong
| regimentation of society and the economy.
|
| Source: Wikipedia
|
| This sounds like the very definition of fascism to me.
| alan-hn wrote:
| Many people want to either tiptoe around or flat out
| ignore the far right leanings of fascism to avoid what it
| says about the US
| Karrot_Kream wrote:
| Which part sounds like fascism?
|
| The Awami League is ideologically a center-left party,
| it's not far right. The quota system that's being
| protested offers employment quotas to descendants of
| revolutionaries and minorities. It was the party that
| founded Bangladesh. Protests are occurring because of the
| corruption and joblessness that results from these quotas
| and because the law was overturned earlier but
| reinstated.
|
| Moreover there's no belief in a natural social hierarchy
| or belief in subordination to the State. If anything the
| Awami League has historically claimed to champion
| minorities in the country like Hindus instead of
| championing Muslim identities like JeI. There's no
| concept of regimemting society at all by the Awami
| League, again that's more JeI's domain with its belief in
| Sharia.
|
| Awami League is authoritarian and corrupt yes but not
| fascist. The Middle East has plenty of authoritarian
| dictatorships that engage in varying levels of human
| rights abuses but that does not make them fascist
| countries.
|
| I'm sorry but your comment just comes off as really
| uniformed about Bdesh and South Asian politics.
| trompetenaccoun wrote:
| Independent of points for or against their rule, the ageist
| argument makes little sense. 25 year olds are generally
| politically naive and easily manipulated. The average person
| in their twenties has no idea about economics, geopolitics or
| other such topics that are important to understand for
| running a country. When you look at uprisings against ancient
| leaders in countries with very young populations, they
| regularly end up even worse then before, sadly. Take Sudan as
| an example.
| dotancohen wrote:
| > But our fascist gov and their goons used force and killed 50+
| unarmed students until yesterday (3 from my alma mater alone.)
|
| Is this what those students with the colored flags have been
| protesting about in US universities for the past half year or
| so?
| 0x1ch wrote:
| Not sure if you're a troll or not, but that would be related
| to Israel and Palestine.
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| News from yesterday
|
| Related article for some context:
| https://www.engadget.com/bangladesh-is-experiencing-a-near-t...
|
| (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41001370)
| TulliusCicero wrote:
| I wish the protestors all the best. Sad that this kind of
| situation is happening.
| TyrianPurple wrote:
| When governments do such things, expect bad results. The
| protesters' demands aren't unreasonable at all. Just be
| meritocratic in civil service appointments.
| InitialLastName wrote:
| Yep, it's easy. Just flip the "off" switch on the privilege
| structure that a huge chunk of the people who operate your
| society benefit from (and expect their children to benefit
| from). What could possibly go wrong?
| frabjoused wrote:
| If this can happen, can you imagine if the Internet was
| centralized?
| elashri wrote:
| Internet is quasi centralized already. An outage or intentional
| disruption by a couple of companies under US Jurisdiction can
| disrupt global internet. Yes you would still have some
| clustered connections here or there but most of internet
| infrastructure is almost centralized already.
| hdhshdhshdjd wrote:
| We've got three operating systems, three giant cloud providers,
| and a near monoculture of browser engines. It's not great, even
| if it could be worse.
| duxup wrote:
| Telecom providers of various kinds are responsive to
| governments so I'm not sure that it "isn't" centralized as far
| as the ability for bad people to do these things goes.
| TheRealPomax wrote:
| Rather than an outage, this is a national internet kill switch
| being used to deny the population access to information and the
| ability to organize.
|
| Because the supreme court reinstated a law that reserves a
| whopping 30% of _all_ government jobs to only people with family
| members who fought in a war 50 years ago. As anyone could have
| trivially predicted, that doesn 't sit well with the entire
| generation that's currently in school and hoping to actually, you
| know, _get a job_ in the next few years.
| fragmede wrote:
| looking at https://outage.ant.isi.edu/ it seems Europe is having
| a bad day too
| jheidemann wrote:
| In https://outage.ant.isi.edu, one should look at the circle
| _colors_ , not just sizes. Circle colors indicate the fraction
| of networks (technically: /24 IPv4 newtork prefixes) that are
| down, and in Bangladesh, the hard red means nearly 100% are
| unreachable.
|
| While Europe has many circles and therefore some networks are
| down, because they are blue that means it's only a few that are
| unreachable. Europe has many, many networks.
| trompetenaccoun wrote:
| What's the explanation for what's going on in Europe though?
| Is that the regular state of their network?
| rbax wrote:
| Has there been any indication from NetBlocks how they think the
| government is blocking internet access? I can still see subnets
| being announced from Bangledesh associated providers.
|
| AS 17494 AS 38592 AS 136246 AS 152304 AS 24323
| DaiPlusPlus wrote:
| There's a Crowdstrike joke in there...
| worstspotgain wrote:
| Fascism, CrowdStriking since 1922.
| oxqbldpxo wrote:
| Is this how an Ai take over or state sponsored cyber attack would
| look like?
| spencerchubb wrote:
| It _is_ a state sponsored cyber attack. It doesn 't just look
| like one
| neets wrote:
| Is this just practice for September?
| BadHumans wrote:
| I dare ask, what happens in September?
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| [dupe]
|
| Some more discussion:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41007396
| Foofoobar12345 wrote:
| A friend of mine who works in a startup in Bangladesh tells me
| that critical infrastructure is being set on fire
| indiscriminately. Buildings such as data centers. He shared
| videos of many such burning buildings. The country doesn't yet
| have resilient infrastructure. For example, internet and
| telecommunication go through a single point of failure. Last
| year, that building was accidentally set on fire and it led to 2
| weeks of poor internet for everyone.
|
| Bangladesh as such has a severe lack of capital, and rebuilding
| all this is costly.
|
| Ideally protests should be peaceful. But along with protestors,
| we tend to unleash anarchists who just want to watch the world
| burn.
|
| They also have rival political parties who clearly use this
| situation to their advantage.
|
| All is not what it seems. Truth is whatever you believe.
|
| I hope for a swift restoration of law and order, followed by
| productive dialogue. And for the love of god, let's not condone
| setting things on fire. That will destroy innocent lives and what
| little financial security they have built.
| TulliusCicero wrote:
| > Ideally protests should be peaceful.
|
| Other people in the thread are saying that Bangladesh is a
| dictatorship, and security forces are killing people for
| protesting.
|
| Just to be clear, if that's the case, violence against the
| state is entirely justified. There is nothing morally wrong
| about rebelling against autocracy, in fact, it's quite a good
| thing.
| Foofoobar12345 wrote:
| It's easy to encourage this when there's nothing at stake. I
| personally have friends and family who are trapped and fear
| violent protestors as much as violent police.
|
| And when the protests die down in a few days or weeks, there
| will be even fewer jobs. And the attacks aren't against the
| state but against the people as well.
| lostlogin wrote:
| Where is the line? Who people support and who a company
| supports all becomes relevant in a civil war.
|
| Quite how this gets resolved is beyond me - the west has
| been quite happy to enjoy products from sweat shops, so is
| probably complicit.
| Foofoobar12345 wrote:
| It's tanks vs sticks, the govt will prevail. In a few
| days we'll all forget about this.
|
| That said, I personally believe the future of the country
| lies in private enterprise - not govt jobs. People in BD
| want these govt jobs for job security. They need to rise
| above that fear.
|
| I hope more will choose the path of entrepreneurship -
| whether by starting an AI company or a street-side
| teashop - there's demand for both.
|
| I've interacted with the software engineers at my
| friend's company. The country has a lot of talented
| coders. I consider myself a veteran programmer - I've
| cracked all interviews thus far in the valley, but I get
| out-coded by these young chaps who've not had access to
| electricity till they were 15 (yes, there are still
| villages without power).
|
| Truly inspiring stuff. Not if only we can all stop
| killing each other, the future will be bright :)
| rubayeet wrote:
| You are missing the point. It may look like protests are
| about having a fair shot at getting government jobs on
| the surface but it is more than that:
|
| 1. Corruption / Nepotism - Quotas in gov jobs are
| exploited by the powerful to hire people in important
| positions who will keep them in power.
|
| 2. Violence against Peaceful Protests - The protests
| started peacefully until the police + the govt backed
| student org (who work as hired goons for the ruling party
| and do the dirty job cops are unable to do) started
| violently suppressing them.
|
| 3. A Head of State who appears to be inconsiderate - The
| PM referred to the protesters with a term that is
| _extremely_ offensive. There is a track record of this
| Head of State using language that is unbecoming of their
| station, or simply unacceptable (think MAGA but 100x
| worse). Power keg exploded.
|
| No matter how much talent or coding chops you have, you
| can't thrive in a society where the powerful are
| unchecked, unaccountable, and your right to protest
| peacefully are met with extreme violence. Try to see the
| world without the lense of SV.
| TulliusCicero wrote:
| Well obviously violence against random civilians is not
| justified, the target should be the state, especially
| leaders and security forces.
| Foofoobar12345 wrote:
| In most of these movements that discipline isn't
| maintained. What do you think happens when thousands of
| students, many of whom are discovering a city the first
| time in their lives, suddenly realize they can set grand
| things on fire?
|
| There's certainly the core movement that is disciplined,
| but its very hard to control the beasts in the fringes.
| __green_pixel__ wrote:
| The protest WAS peaceful until one protester was killed by the
| Police for no reason.
|
| Not sure how you are blaming the massive countrywide internet
| outage on the protesters. It was literally announced by the
| government that they were shutting everything down to control
| the movement.
| Foofoobar12345 wrote:
| I'm not blaming anyone for anything. I'm saying buildings
| were set on fire.
|
| And yes we know that internet was shut by the government, but
| we had a day of burning overhead optical fiber that serves as
| the backbone for many peoples home internet connections.
|
| My team of network engineers was brought in by some companies
| to try and reroute and stabilize the country's infrastructure
| before the full shut down.
|
| And when the internet is turned back on, there are the
| unlucky ones such as us who have to debug the remaining
| issues and asses the damage of a burnt central node that all
| ISPs connect through.
| anigbrowl wrote:
| _Ideally protests should be peaceful._
|
| When there's no consequences for bad authoritarian behavior,
| you get more of it. Your plea for law and order is (probably
| inadvertently) a plea for the ongoing dominance of the
| _established_ order. If it 's peaceful only because everyone is
| afraid or unable to resist, then what you have is a police
| state. And in authoritarian societies like that, peaceful
| protest doesn't make any postive difference whatsoever, while
| often making things noticeably worse for the protesters.
|
| Even in places like the US/UK, nonviolent protests attract
| violent repression and call by some people for even more
| violent repression. Simply passively standing against the
| established order is treated by some as a license to commit
| violence upon the protesters.
|
| You are right about Bangladesh having a lack of capital and the
| costs of rebuilding, but you're basically arguing that capital
| matters more than the people in society. I'm sure you would
| never advocate just killing off/stripping the rights of some %
| of the population to increase the average wealth, but that's
| exactly what authoritarian regimes _do_ in practice. There 's
| always a favored in-group (sometimes described as a
| 'selectorate', imbued with sufficient political power to prop
| up the incumbent regime in exchange for policy rewards) and a
| disfavored out-group (the wrong ethnicity, or the wrong idea-
| havers, or the wrong socioeconomic class) that gets saddled
| with the costs. The recipe for successful authoritarians is to
| strip wealth from the out-group(s) fast enough to keep the in-
| group happy but not so fast that the out-groups decide they
| have nothing to lose or that their loss rate is unacceptable,
| causing them to react violently against the authority structure
| and/or the in-group that benefits from it.
|
| Capitalistic abundance through the satisfaction of demands by
| enterprise and markets is a nice idea, but it is in no way
| guaranteed. Very often the beneficial goods and services come
| with negative externalities (pollution, waste, second-order
| effects) that do not fall on the consumer beneficiaries.
| Capitalists and industrialists (who are often but not always
| the same) frequently avoid accounting for these; where they do
| acknowledge the problems, they promote changing consumer
| behavior to mitigate the problem, recycling being the most
| obvious example. Sometimes this is effective, often not. The
| problem is that you don't _have_ to generate positive
| externalities to succeed in a capitalist system; you can have a
| zero- or even negative-sum strategy and still win in many
| situations, as long as you are good at divide-and-conquer and
| frustrating attempts by your detractors to coordinate against
| you politically /economically. This is why corporations spend
| so much money on lobbying lawmakers and regulators, and also
| why branding is such a huge industry, differentiating
| _products_ as much as possible while downplaying the identity
| of _producers_ to minimize the appearance of oligopoly.
| Foofoobar12345 wrote:
| Both sides of the political spectrum are authoritarian. Each
| dominant party will do whatever in their power to hold onto
| it.
|
| That said, law and order is needed to sustain the population.
| The pop density of BD is incredible - imagine half the
| population of US crammed into the state of New York. Systems
| and processes were what BD out of being considered a "basket
| case " as Henry Kissinger (?) once famously called it. A lot
| of it were built by NGOs and private parties.
|
| Now you have these students who are protesting something
| valid. But they are also not mature enough to realize that if
| they start burning away the optical fibers and data centers,
| they're destroying the systems they are using to self-
| organize.
|
| And what happens once they topple the govt? Who runs their
| nuclear reactor and power stations? Who runs their comms?
|
| Let's not throw away the baby with the bathwater and try and
| find a more reasonable way.
| yupyupyups wrote:
| >A friend of mine who works in a startup in Bangladesh tells me
| that critical infrastructure is being set on fire
| indiscriminately. Buildings such as data centers. He shared
| videos of many such burning buildings.
|
| Targeting critical infrastructure doesn't sound like purely
| "anarchistic" rioting to me. It sounds like something a foreign
| hostile power would want to happen.
|
| It reminds me of what is happening in Ukraine at the moment,
| where critical infrastructure is being targeted to hurt the
| civilian population. But here, instead of rockets, we have
| goons who are paid to burn things down?
| kkaahh wrote:
| This protest, which started peacefully is currently the
| consequence of absolute mishandling and mismanagement by the
| government that resulted in close to 100 being shot dead by the
| police.
|
| The current protest is not about the quota system anymore. It is
| the result of the systematic breakdown of social and economic
| opportunities that stems from years of corruption and favouritism
| within every sect of the economy.
| logicchains wrote:
| Is meshnet technology currently feasible/cheap enough that it
| could be used to work around an internet shutdown in a country
| with very high population density like Bangladesh?
| floxy wrote:
| Anyone know more about Starlink availability in Bangladesh? I see
| there were some news articles last year mentioning trials. And
| the prohibitive cost to the locals.
| einpoklum wrote:
| Maybe they just had Crowdstrike installed at some of their
| Internet exchange control machines? :-\
| Karrot_Kream wrote:
| My friends are mostly Bdesh expats at this point. I wonder how
| dangerous it would be to setup a link from Bdesh into India. It
| would be a useful lifeline. Best wishes for the students and the
| people of Bdesh, but the stuff we were seeing as late as
| yesterday on Twitter was ugly. I hope those that can are using
| their mobiles to take proof.
| AlexDragusin wrote:
| If you need visuals of the flatlining here it is:
| https://radar.cloudflare.com/traffic/bd
| observationist wrote:
| "Bangladesh imposes a near total internet shutdown to stifle
| coverage and online engagement with police killings at student
| protest"
|
| Calling things what they are instead of tortuously passive and
| neutral descriptions should be standard. The headline sounds like
| it's describing two separate things that just coincidentally
| happen to be occurring at the same time.
| bobthepanda wrote:
| Headlines are usually written like this to avoid libel suits.
| Even if you have a defensible case it's quite expensive to go
| through the motions of a lawsuit.
| observationist wrote:
| Bangladesh is going to sue US journalists in a US court for
| accurate headlines?
|
| I'd love libel suits from hostile authoritarian regimes,
| personally. For a journalism organization, that would seem to
| be a badge of honor.
|
| Something is deeply wrong if you have to essentially lie on
| behalf of the bad guys or risk significant financial
| penalties.
| inglor_cz wrote:
| Does Starlink work in Bangladesh?
| anigbrowl wrote:
| Given the prevalence of this sort of thing in authoritarian
| countries, it's disappointing that mesh networking apps like
| Briar and Firechat are not more well-resourced/ developed/
| promoted. Popular messaging platforms like Signal, WeChat, and
| Telegram offer a blend of convenience and security (different
| apps having different priorities, eg Telegram prioritizes the
| former over the latter), but they're all vulnerable to internet
| shutdowns, which instantly dissolves any online community trying
| to coordinate.
|
| Mesh networks are generally slower and less reliable for large-
| scale data transfer as well as less secure by virtue of their
| distributed nature, but are more resilient in the event that
| natural/ social disasters take down communications
| infrastructure. Even janky analog radios work better.
| dang wrote:
| I changed the URL from
| https://mastodon.social/@netblocks/112808500770031751 after
| getting this email from a user:
|
| _If you figure the event is significant enough to be on the
| front page, isn 't something about the event itself more
| appropriate? as opposed to a tweet about the network being down
| as stand-in_
|
| That seems like a good point. I hope it doesn't context-shift the
| comments too much (I'm in a meeting atm and don't have time to
| check.)
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