[HN Gopher] The Future of Trash [pdf] (2023)
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       The Future of Trash [pdf] (2023)
        
       Author : jonbaer
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2024-07-11 04:49 UTC (18 hours ago)
        
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       | Vayu wrote:
       | this cost them 4 million.
        
         | micromacrofoot wrote:
         | what should it have cost? this is a very complicated problem
         | for densest and most populated city in the US... and it seems
         | like a thorough and thoughtful analysis
        
         | meetingthrower wrote:
         | The DSNY budget is $1.9B. How much should you invest to make
         | the right decision, when you are radically changing the
         | operations of the organization and the daily fabric of city
         | life for millions of people?
        
         | snapcaster wrote:
         | Are you saying that's too high? aren't the stakes massive on
         | something like this?
        
       | Spivak wrote:
       | This is great! I wish all decisions were made with this kind of
       | detailed analysis beforehand. It really highlights how crazy
       | Manhattan is.
        
       | micromacrofoot wrote:
       | Nice to see that they're dedicating some street space to shared
       | containers, something like this would be destined to fail without
       | it
        
         | SoftTalker wrote:
         | They are simply going to have to give up some street parking to
         | waste containers. I don't live there, but it seems a fair trade
         | that a few individuals will have to find another place to park
         | so that everyone on the block can enjoy not having unsightly,
         | smelly piles of trash on the sidewalks, and the reduction in
         | vermin that should come with it.
         | 
         | I remember my first visit to NYC and I was shocked that in the
         | premier city of the USA that trash was simply piled on the
         | sidewalks for collection.
        
           | micromacrofoot wrote:
           | yes absolutely, but this kind of thing has been verboten for
           | decades -- people love complaining about parking spaces, and
           | at times will physically fight to defend them
        
           | MisterTea wrote:
           | > but it seems a fair trade that a few individuals will have
           | to find another place to park
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           | There likely isn't any room. A friend who moved from CA to
           | Manhattan told me parking was so bad by his east village
           | building that he would ignore alternate side parking and eat
           | the fine. Turns out parking tickets are cheap and infrequent
           | enough that they are an affordable way to park your car long
           | term albeit illegally. Of course the city doesn't mind the
           | revenue so everyone gets what they want. He wound up selling
           | his car not long after.
           | 
           | The parking situation is bad all over the city so it is a
           | highly contentious subject.
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | (2023)
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       | Alternate link:
       | https://www.nyc.gov/site/dsny/resources/reports/the-future-o...
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       | Is this part of the McKinsey work in question after the recent
       | bin unveiling?
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       |  _New York 's viral new trash cans unveiled nearly 2 years after
       | a $1.6 million contract with consultancy giant McKinsey_
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       | https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-hired-mckinsey-to-a...
        
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