[HN Gopher] Goodwatch - A Ham Radio Wristwatch (2020)
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       Goodwatch - A Ham Radio Wristwatch (2020)
        
       Author : austinallegro
       Score  : 112 points
       Date   : 2024-06-30 22:34 UTC (3 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (kk4vcz.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (kk4vcz.com)
        
       | xavierstein wrote:
       | This is delightful. I would love to start working on a project
       | like this.
       | 
       | Side note, as someone who works adjacent to the RF and
       | electronics industry, getting my Ham license was the best thing I
       | could have done to help my CS brain understand the radio and
       | electronics side of what we do. If you've ever been curious about
       | getting your license, I highly recommend it!
        
       | api wrote:
       | What's Ham radio like these days? My grandfather was a ham and I
       | have fond memories of him teaching me about radio waves (and
       | early computer programming!) as a kid in his den.
       | 
       | I still remember that he was W4LMU, and searching on it finds
       | this:
       | 
       | https://www.qsl.net/kq4pl/skeys.htm
       | 
       | His gear was huge, still used vacuum tubes (already retro in the
       | 1980s but he was a Ham), and consumed enough power to run a small
       | neighborhood. He'd be delighted with this.
        
         | jonah wrote:
         | Ham radio is a hugely diverse hobby these days.
         | 
         | Personally, I had been thinking about getting my license, but
         | finally did it as a extra skill for my SAR team application. As
         | the younger guy with the rope skills, I got into infrastructure
         | work. Towers and antennas and remote cameras and microwave
         | links, etc.
         | 
         | People are into everything from mesh networking to digitally
         | encoded communication methods to hiking to remote mountaintops
         | and seeing how many people you can contact to building prepper
         | type SHTF communication systems to contesting and seeing how
         | many/how far contacts you can make to setting up data
         | collection systems for scientific research to supporting public
         | safety, large events, and emergency communications. And a lot
         | more I'm not coming up with off the top of my head.
         | 
         | My local radio club was in an area with a lot of retired
         | defense and aerospace type engineers but it also had younger
         | folks from tech, media and anything else type backgrounds.
        
         | ianburrell wrote:
         | One big thing recently is POTA and SOTA where people go to
         | parks and mountain summits to make contacts. The latter
         | requires small radio, putting up your own antennas, and using
         | Morse code.
         | 
         | People talking on the radio is sort of dead. HF is still
         | popular. There is FT8 digital mode that let's make contact with
         | low signal. I've reached Australia, Chile, and Russia from west
         | coast.
         | 
         | There is a lot of hacking, but it doesn't seem to get into
         | mainstream. But there are lots of things to build; I have
         | little radio waiting to be soldered.
        
           | technothrasher wrote:
           | > People talking on the radio is sort of dead.
           | 
           | That's a shame. I have vivid memories of one radio or another
           | chattering away in my dad's study when I was a kid. Of
           | course, to the point I guess, he's still around but doesn't
           | really do any of that anymore himself. He now mostly plays
           | with radio astronomy in his dotage.
        
           | anamexis wrote:
           | > People talking on the radio is sort of dead.
           | 
           | I don't have any reference to how it used to be, but there's
           | a fair amount of voice activity on the 2m and 70cm repeaters
           | near me.
        
             | 01100011 wrote:
             | Lots of folks remember the 2m/440 activity in the days
             | before unlimited cell phone minutes. Nothing compares to
             | that. I'll say that, in my major west coast metro, the
             | repeaters are pretty dead outside of nets.
        
           | fsagx wrote:
           | > People talking on the radio is sort of dead
           | 
           | In my area, we used to have quite a bit of traffic on one 2m
           | repeater, mostly around morning and afternoon commute times.
           | We had a retired police officer who seemed to spend most of
           | the day chatting. He went away, and most of the chatter went
           | away with him. I would guess all the guys who used to talk
           | while in their cars are still out there, but no one is
           | getting the conversation ball rolling like he used to.
        
           | DakotaR wrote:
           | Somewhat disagree, it depends on the club. For example, I've
           | experienced a lot more conversation on the W3OK repeater vs
           | the W4MLB repeaters
        
           | Stratoscope wrote:
           | Something wild that a local Bay Area group of hams do is
           | Parachute Mobile. It's just what you may guess: they jump out
           | of an airplane with ham rigs strapped to their chest and make
           | contacts from under the canopy.
           | 
           | https://parachutemobile.wordpress.com/
        
         | engineer_22 wrote:
         | if you get licensed you may be able to obtain his old callsign
         | as your own
        
         | yock wrote:
         | It's good to go into radio with an idea of what you want to do
         | with it, then find a community of hams who enjoy doing that.
         | People chase distant contacts, they practice emergency
         | communications, they run low-power stations from remote
         | locations, and many more kinds of activities.
         | 
         | Mike - KE8ATC
        
         | itomato wrote:
         | You don't need a license to explore and have fun.
         | 
         | Cheap, firmware hackable HTs are hawt, in particular the
         | Quansheng UV-K5,K6.
         | 
         | Tons of SDR receivers out there to explore, and many extremely
         | exiting transceiver projects out there also. Just so much:
         | 
         | https://github.com/jopohl/urh
         | 
         | http://websdr.org/
         | 
         | http://kiwisdr.com/public/
         | 
         | https://meshtastic.org/docs/hardware/devices/
        
           | rtkwe wrote:
           | Listening is license free but transmitting in the US on any
           | of the interesting bands (ie not just DMR or a walmart walkie
           | where the device is licensed instead of the operator being
           | licensed) requires a license.
        
         | DominoTree wrote:
         | Something really cool I stumbled upon recently - someone near
         | me hosts a trivia show via ham radio once a week, and other
         | folks in the area will listen for their callsign and then
         | answer his questions
         | 
         | Makes me really happy to run across random unexpected things
         | like that
        
       | the_plus_one wrote:
       | I bumped into kk4vcz at Defcon in 2021. I was standing around,
       | looking clueless, and playing with my Baofeng near the ham radio
       | village. He approached me and asked if I could transmit on a
       | particular frequency to help test his watch. I said something
       | along the lines of "oh that's really cool, I've read that guy's
       | blog and follow him on Twitter." He said something along the
       | lines of "yeah, that's me."
       | 
       | He even gave me a couple GoodWatch boards. Nice guy!
        
         | wkat4242 wrote:
         | He's also a hero of the MD380/390 mods and I believe also DMR
         | access point boards and software. Great guy
        
       | CraigJPerry wrote:
       | By the same author https://www.amazon.co.uk/PoC-GTFO-Manul-
       | Laphroaig/dp/1593278...
       | 
       | The PoC||GTFO series, I only have vols 1 & 2, have to be some of
       | the most fascinating books ever published. These and Stevens'
       | Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment are the most fun in
       | my bookcase.
        
       | supportengineer wrote:
       | How does one create a circuit board tiny enough to fit inside an
       | existing wristwatch? I didn't see any photos of the circuit
       | board.
        
         | 0_____0 wrote:
         | Check the GitHub link. Their PCB replaces the original in the
         | watch.
        
         | _Microft wrote:
         | This seems to be the replacement board shown here:
         | https://github.com/travisgoodspeed/goodwatch/wiki/GoodWatch3...
        
       | yock wrote:
       | That would be a heck of a fun thing to build. Seems to require a
       | heat gun though, which puts it out of my reach for now.
        
       | robxorb wrote:
       | Are there limits on what can be done in a wristwatch? I mean in
       | terms of RF reception? Like, is it possible in such small sizes
       | to receive any frequency, or is there certain limits, say based
       | on heat, or necessary component footprint or other constraints?
        
         | anamexis wrote:
         | I think the primary constraint would be the antenna. Generally
         | speaking, the longer the wavelength, the longer the antenna
         | needs to be to efficiently receive it (or transmit it). You can
         | still receive/transmit with a too-short antenna, but efficiency
         | drops off very quickly.
        
           | robxorb wrote:
           | Thanks! This makes me wonder if it might be possible to build
           | a wristwatch SDR, essentially the same as this project but
           | with a very wide band into the Ghz, as with some small USB
           | SDR's. It'd be so cool to have something so versatile in
           | Casio form-factor.
        
           | HWR_14 wrote:
           | This watch uses a wire in the wristband. Can the antenna
           | length be increased by simply using multiple coils?
        
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