[HN Gopher] Bebe Bibliophile
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Bebe Bibliophile
Author : Michelangelo11
Score : 37 points
Date : 2024-06-28 16:53 UTC (1 days ago)
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| wazoox wrote:
| For anyone wondering, BD are _bandes dessinees_ i.e. comics.
| Luc wrote:
| In my mind BD are European (more or less Franco-Belgian) comics
| books, distinct from 'comics', which are American style
| superhero stories. Just like manga is a separate category.
| soneca wrote:
| That's what was in the author's mind as well. He added a
| footnote:
|
| _" Worth noting that these comics fell within /adjacent to
| the Franco-Belgian comic tradition (Bande dessinee or BD for
| short), which have a very different reputation from their
| American comic book counterparts. Superheroes are,
| thankfully, approximately non-existent and BDs are generally
| respected as an art form, and their appeal cuts across a much
| broader age range."_
| pvaldes wrote:
| > Superheroes are, thankfully, approximately non-existent
|
| Not in the American sense, but they have magic potions that
| give super strength. I suppose that Europe had super-
| druggos instead.
| 9dev wrote:
| If someone from the US cares to join in, are there
| counterexamples to this, as in, widely known American comics
| that do not revolve around superheroes?
|
| Calvin&Hobbes comes to mind, for example. Any others?
| keiferski wrote:
| Peanuts (Charlie Brown), MAD Magazine, Garfield, to name a
| few.
| grp wrote:
| Black Hole (Charles Burns)
|
| But, yeah, comics == superhero (for me as well) cause the
| others examples are more "strips" first published in
| newspapers than comics.
| kjellsbells wrote:
| Well, there are comic strips, that is, units published on
| some schedule that might then be collected and sold as a
| book. Calvin and Hobbes, Garfield, the Far Side, Dilbert,
| Garfield. These all derive from the age of physical
| newspapers.
|
| Then there are the natively web comics, for example, xkcd,
| oglaf (NSFW), and a zillion others. (Special shout out to
| Dr Fun from the late 1990s, a very early example of hacker
| culture meets the Far Side.) Perhaps only xkcd has crossed
| into the general consciousness of the non comic reader, but
| I'm sure HN will correct me.
|
| Then there are graphic novels that sometimes are created as
| magazine-sized editions and then collated, and sometimes
| just put out as books. The Sandman, American Born Chinese,
| Boxers and Saints, Persepolis, Alcoholic. These are well
| known to the book buying regular public.
|
| Intermission: theres a stream of educational comics as
| well. For example my Indian friends in the US diaspora all
| talk about Amar Chitra Katha comics from their childhood
| that had editions for major cultural or religious figures
| (eg stories about Krishna).
|
| Then there are the graphicalizations (thats a word I just
| made up) of other works. For example, there's a graphical
| novel version of Paul Auster's New York Trilogy. Probably
| not as well known to the average reader.
| g15jv2dp wrote:
| Aren't calvin&hobbes stories just a few panels (4-5) each?
| It's a bit different from what I would call a "BD" (a
| single story making up the whole book, or sometimes
| 1-2-page stories).
| kergonath wrote:
| Calvin & Hobbes definitely fits. Some European BDs are
| (or were) also published as strips in journals. It's true
| that strips are not as common as in the UK or the US, but
| they are not that different from most short stories BDs.
| They are not a separate category like mangas or comics
| are.
| gumby wrote:
| Tons of disney, richie rich, archie etc, though perhaps not
| sold in the USA (pretty common in Europe and SE Asia) but
| are pretty American!
| StephenAmar wrote:
| What makes Disney comics singular is that a lot of them are
| authored by European artists and have the distinct BD
| style. For instance
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck_in_comics goes
| over this a bit.
|
| Also Picsou Magazine > Journal de Mickey. There I said it.
| 9dev wrote:
| How could I forget Don Rosa, who even occupies a few
| slots in my shelf..?
| aga98mtl wrote:
| Even in this tablet age, my kids love reading "Le Journal de
| Mickey". It's a bit expensive to get it in Canada.
| LelouBil wrote:
| I think I have stacks of a couple years of "Le journal de
| Mickey" subscriptions somewhere. I also liked a lot "Mickey
| Parade geant" !
| gumby wrote:
| I had a similar childhood, always with the nose in the books (no
| BD or comics for some reason), except we couldn't afford to buy
| books so it was all library. Only four books were allowed at a
| time so I would read my four SF books and my sister her four
| horse books and then we'd swap. Our parents needed to tell us to
| "stop ready and go outside and play".
|
| For a while there was no library but you could put a request in
| at the train station and then pick up your books at the station
| the next day (and return your read ones). This was less than
| satisfactory as there was no way to browse.
|
| We had the same problem with our kiddo (reading in bed, reading
| in the bath, reading outside) but when some sort of punishment
| was required it was easy to declare a brief Lesenverbot.
|
| It's much easier today as we can afford to buy as many books as
| we desire.
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