[HN Gopher] ELIZA Reinterpreted: The world's first chatbot was n...
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       ELIZA Reinterpreted: The world's first chatbot was not intended as
       a chatbot
        
       Author : mtraven
       Score  : 41 points
       Date   : 2024-06-26 20:05 UTC (2 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arxiv.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arxiv.org)
        
       | anthk wrote:
       | Classic chatbots:
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       | https://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/areas...
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       | Splotch it's offensive but fun.
       | 
       | Azile might run under Executor (the forked one at GitHub).
        
         | bitwize wrote:
         | Emacs still has M-x doctor.
        
           | kreyenborgi wrote:
           | Probably based on Jeff Shrager's ELIZA. IIRC from
           | https://corecursive.com/eliza-with-jeff-shrager/ most ELIZA's
           | out there are actually based on his reimplementation, not on
           | Weizenbaum's original code
        
         | abrax3141 wrote:
         | https://sites.google.com/view/elizagen-org/
        
       | burnte wrote:
       | Except it WAS intended as a chatbot... as a tool "for research
       | into human-machine conversation and the important cognitive
       | processes of interpretation and misinterpretation".
       | 
       | It's like saying the guy who invented the screwdriver didn't
       | invent it because he was REALLY just trying to build a cabinet.
       | The reason a tool was invented does not mean the tool isn't what
       | the tool is.
        
         | bitwize wrote:
         | POSIWID.
        
       | adamgordonbell wrote:
       | Jeff is a HN user and his connection to ELIZA is pretty
       | interesting. Many of the ELIZA chat bot clones were based on a
       | version he wrote as a kid, that was published.
       | 
       | He and a group of researchers put effort into digging up the
       | history of original implementation.
       | 
       | Interesting person!
        
         | cxr wrote:
         | You can plug your interview.
        
       | Legend2440 wrote:
       | Is arxiv just a blogging platform now? This isn't a research
       | paper.
        
         | cscheid wrote:
         | I think you misunderstand arxiv, blogging, and research papers.
         | 
         | (I've used/done extensively the three mentioned things before,
         | including blogging in a research context)
         | 
         | arxiv is a preprint server. Blog posts can, sometimes, play the
         | same role as research preprints. Research papers are
         | fundamentally about having a _structured conversation_ about a
         | topic.
         | 
         | This paper is arxiv at its best.
        
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