[HN Gopher] TeamViewer Security Breach
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       TeamViewer Security Breach
        
       Author : campuscodi
       Score  : 56 points
       Date   : 2024-06-27 21:02 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.teamviewer.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.teamviewer.com)
        
       | dylan604 wrote:
       | "There is no evidence to suggest that the product environment or
       | customer data is affected."
       | 
       | Yet.
        
         | noinsight wrote:
         | I've heard C-suite literally say: "if there's no logging, there
         | can be no evidence"...
        
           | wepple wrote:
           | With recent govt mandates to report known incidents within XX
           | hours, this approach will possibly become the gold strategy
        
             | mulmen wrote:
             | A win for privacy?
        
               | wepple wrote:
               | Oh no no no. They'll still collect data about people.
               | Just not security logs that could indicate an incident.
               | Double loss for privacy.
        
               | Vegenoid wrote:
               | Data will still be harvested. Logs that indicate when or
               | how it was harvested, where it has been sent, or who has
               | accessed it - those are the things that will be killed.
        
           | imglorp wrote:
           | Keeping no evidence of misbehavior is already becoming
           | standard practice to avoid regulators.
           | 
           | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-26/doj-
           | ftc-w...
           | 
           | or https://archive.is/T5f3G
        
       | portaouflop wrote:
       | Using TeamViewer is a security breach.
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | I didn't think anyone used TeamViewer anymore except as ManU
         | jersey sponsor which says all you need to know.
        
         | starttoaster wrote:
         | Not sure about your opinion about TeamViewer in particular, but
         | if you manage any MacOS servers there's not much alternative
         | but to have some form of remote desktop client in my
         | experience. If you're on a team where everyone has Macbooks,
         | you probably just use the builtin screen sharing app though.
         | 
         | For Windows environments you're probably using Remote Desktop,
         | which, enough said there.
        
           | kspacewalk2 wrote:
           | You can use Remote Desktop on MacOS.
        
           | bitwize wrote:
           | Doesn't macOS have a built-in VNC server?
        
           | edm0nd wrote:
           | What are yall using macOS Server for? I thought it was end of
           | life'd.
        
             | yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
             | I think we're talking about normal macs that are being used
             | as servers, not Xserve
        
           | infogulch wrote:
           | Tried RustDesk?
        
           | dlachausse wrote:
           | Jump desktop works really well for connecting remotely to
           | macOS...
           | 
           | https://jumpdesktop.com
        
         | bakugo wrote:
         | What do you use instead?
        
           | arsome wrote:
           | RustDesk has been pretty good for something that's 1:1
           | comparable, but for most cases ssh or rdp is preferable.
        
           | DANmode wrote:
           | AnyDesk is by former TeamViewer folks.
        
           | zfa wrote:
           | Self-hosted Mesh Central.
        
           | KentGeek wrote:
           | I dumped TeamViewer a few months ago in favor of Google
           | Remote Desktop. It satisfies my occasional low bar
           | requirements, and doesn't make me feel guilty for using it
           | without pay. I connect between iPad, Windows, Linux, a couple
           | of times a month. Easiest thing I've found so far.
        
       | imglorp wrote:
       | At least they have a nice disclosure page and acknowledge
       | researchers.
       | 
       | https://www.teamviewer.com/en/resources/trust-center/securit...
        
       | miles wrote:
       | More background:
       | 
       | TeamViewer's corporate network was breached in alleged APT hack
       | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/teamviewers-c...
        
       | dangoodmanUT wrote:
       | On the this episode of a teamviewer security breach...
        
       | ryanmccullagh wrote:
       | I would imagine this is due to a Product manager vetoing time
       | spent on Security Considerations.
        
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