[HN Gopher] Rabbit data breach: all r1 responses ever given can ...
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Rabbit data breach: all r1 responses ever given can be downloaded
Author : dcchambers
Score : 72 points
Date : 2024-06-25 19:39 UTC (3 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (rabbitu.de)
(TXT) w3m dump (rabbitu.de)
| yazzku wrote:
| It was obvious from their "key note" in day one that this project
| was a scam. The best thing that can happen to it at this point is
| for it to be sued and shut down.
|
| Anybody can string a couple of API calls together and write an
| "app". That is not programming, and this project is a massive
| undertaking for somebody of their skill. It should have never
| gone to market to begin with, regulations should have stopped it
| on its feet. The fact that they put more effort into their "key
| note" than the actual product was already a red flag. It's like
| some marketing guys got together and decided that they were going
| to "take the world by storm with AI".
|
| > we have internal confirmation that the rabbit team is aware of
| this leaking of api keys and have chosen to ignore it. the api
| keys continue to be valid as of writing.
|
| Yeah.
| llamaimperative wrote:
| I mean that is definitely programming. The real distinction
| you're looking for is the gap between programming and building
| a production-ready product.
| RIMR wrote:
| I see no benefit in being pedantic. Obviously writing code
| that performs simple API interactions is "programming". The
| definition of programming is extremely broad.
|
| It is rather clear to me that yazzku is saying that the
| programming required to pull of what the R1 does falls well
| below what Rabbit promised their customers. That this is such
| a bullshit design that we can infer that the entire product
| is a scam, because if they were serious it wouldn't be so
| obvious that no work into actually making a useful product.
| llamaimperative wrote:
| You can build perfectly fine products without programming
| anything at all. The problem isn't the
| lack/scale/type/complexity of programming. The problem is
| that the product is bad, and this is not a pedantic point
| at all.
| sandwitches wrote:
| Please don't cheapen professional expertise in this way.
| The product is bad, yes, but why? Because the programming
| is bad, and the programmers are negligent.
| llamaimperative wrote:
| > Anybody can string a couple of API calls together and
| write an "app". That is not programming
|
| Yes it is. Simple as.
|
| Please don't gatekeep something as casual as writing
| code. Good lord.
| sandwitches wrote:
| I have bad news about most SaaS products.
| devonsolomon wrote:
| Move slower and break less things.
| AdamJacobMuller wrote:
| "move fast and break things" is an excuse for how this could
| have happened (not that i'm defending it) but the last bits of
| the article...
|
| > the rabbit team is aware of this leaking of api keys and have
| chosen to ignore it. the api keys continue to be valid as of
| writing
|
| That's just damning. Making the mistake is one thing, but,
| having it pointed out to you and refusing to fix it is
| unconscionable.
| Havoc wrote:
| > rabbit team is aware of this leaking of api keys and have
| chosen to ignore it. the api keys continue to be valid as of
| writing
|
| Remind me how many billions was this supposedly worth?
| Hamuko wrote:
| Reportedly only some hundreds of millions. The makers of that
| stupid AI Pin that you strap onto your chest and that catches
| on fire was trying to sell itself to Hewlett-Packard for $1
| billion.
| drodgers wrote:
| For a company who's product requires trusting them with login
| tokens for all your favourite online services, this is
| ludicrously short-sighted.
| chad1n wrote:
| Apparently after this was made public, they finally revoked the
| key which obviously broke the R1s because they didn't update the
| key on their server.
|
| So this is the IT literacy of AI startups...
| kotaKat wrote:
| As jesse himself said on the Rabbit Discord:
|
| "please don't under estimate the effort and IQ level of our eng
| - its much more complicated than that."
|
| I present no other commentary.
| olliej wrote:
| This provides useful context for the other story about revoking a
| key breaking all their services.
|
| I wish there was a mechanism on HN to link related (but
| different) stories - beyond people in the comments I mean. I
| think it would be especially useful over time (eg I could relate
| these today because they're both on front page at the same time,
| but if someone came across this in the future the relationship
| may have been lost)
| Retr0id wrote:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40793192
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