[HN Gopher] The Triumph of Counting and Scripting
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       The Triumph of Counting and Scripting
        
       Author : viburnum
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2024-06-24 06:29 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | xhevahir wrote:
       | Surprising that the author doesn't mention Arlie Russell
       | Hochschild's idea of "emotional labor," which Hochschild first
       | wrote about over 40(!) years ago.
        
         | keybored wrote:
         | - Emotional labor seemed to be a term coined for non-obvious
         | work that is not directly tied to a worker's duties: service
         | workers don't have it as their work duties, but simply "being
         | nice" and accommodating can take effort (work)
         | 
         | - Caring professions are more directly interpersonal and
         | intimate; that there is an emotional component is more obvious
         | and less incidental
         | 
         | - This is about administrative work that is completely separate
         | from interpersonal work duties
        
       | ds_opseeker wrote:
       | Reminds me of an observation from a podcast done by a successful
       | creative (sorry, can't remember who, I think Rick Rubin was
       | interviewing the person):
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       | Our society thinks it is normal to have a creative work evaluated
       | by accounting, but never the reverse.
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       | It would be fun to reverse that. "Ok, Jones, you made a profit of
       | 30M, but we don't really see that you released that much
       | creativity. We're going to have to cancel your project."
        
         | pif wrote:
         | > Our society thinks it is normal to have a creative work
         | evaluated by accounting, but never the reverse.
         | 
         | It is normal because it makes sense: people can spend the money
         | as they wish, but the same cannot be stated for creativity.
        
         | datadrivenangel wrote:
         | Material conditions apply. True profit occurs when our actions
         | improve material conditions in pareto efficient way. Art that
         | makes us better off is more valuable than art that does not...
         | definitionally.
        
       | ysofunny wrote:
       | everybody will be accounted AND scripted for.
       | 
       | freewill will first turn into a political debate, then an
       | economic issue. finally it'll be realized as too expensive for
       | "average joes" and hence we will have an answer to whether the
       | universe is deterministic. A resounding YES. equivalently, we
       | will know if we have free will, a resounding NO for that would
       | not be as efficient.
        
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