[HN Gopher] Astronauts stranded, multiple issues w Starliner - r...
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       Astronauts stranded, multiple issues w Starliner - return flight
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       Author : bookofjoe
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2024-06-24 11:56 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
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       | gregorymichael wrote:
       | What's the option if Starliner is not cleared for return? Elon to
       | the rescue?
        
         | jamiedumont wrote:
         | Are the Russian Soyuz still being used as ISS-taxis?
        
           | recursivecaveat wrote:
           | Yes: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_human_sp
           | acef... Apparently they continuously keep at least one docked
           | there as well as an escape pod.
        
         | alisiddiq wrote:
         | That will just Elongate the process
        
         | snowwrestler wrote:
         | Starliner is currently cleared to return. The astronauts are
         | not stranded. Mission leadership has opted to extend the stay
         | on the station because it is the best place to troubleshoot the
         | issues they are having.
        
       | api wrote:
       | What's happened at Boeing is so remarkably _systemic_ it really
       | needs a book length detailed treatment. I hope one is coming.
       | 
       | The entire company seems to have been absolutely utterly gutted.
        
         | hdhshdhshdjd wrote:
         | It's the same for pretty much everything across the board: the
         | "got mine" generation thinks they can take all the wealth and
         | resources with them to the grave, leave us with the PFAS,
         | climate change, gutted social safety net, destroyed companies,
         | and the truth is they'll be dead before the bill comes due.
        
           | matthewdgreen wrote:
           | "Got mine" generation is definitely part of it, but demanding
           | N% returns from an economy that has GDP growth of (N/2)% (and
           | a lot of that just paper wealth from the finance industry) is
           | the more proximate cause.
        
           | stevenally wrote:
           | It's not a generation, it's a type of person and a cultural
           | attitude. The majority of older people own nothing and had no
           | say in the running of the world.
        
             | lawlessone wrote:
             | >The majority of older people own nothing and had no say in
             | the running of the world.
             | 
             | What's sad is many of those that got shafted will still
             | defend what's happened.
        
             | hdhshdhshdjd wrote:
             | Reagan carried 49 of 50 states in 1984. The vast majority
             | of the problems we see today are rooted in Reaganism.
             | 
             | On the other side of the pond the same generation of voters
             | gutted the UK under Thatcher, then sacrificed their
             | children and grandchildren at the altar of Brexit.
             | 
             | The generation who destroyed the social safety their
             | parents gave them is on the hook for this, even if the
             | majority of them also get to enjoy the fruits of their
             | decisions.
        
       | jncfhnb wrote:
       | They are relatively fine there if the window is missed, right?
        
         | mathsmath wrote:
         | Yes. Worst case, they will have to take a Dragon or Soyuz home.
        
           | htrp wrote:
           | taking a dragon or soyuz back may be the straw that breaks
           | the camels back for starliner
        
             | 9659 wrote:
             | rather kill the program than lose a couple of astronauts.
             | my opinion, Boeing stockholders may feel differently.
        
       | workfromspace wrote:
       | This is the first time I felt a reality in space travel became
       | closer to "For All Mankind".
        
       | vimax wrote:
       | > "We've learned that our helium system is not performing as
       | designed," Mark Nappi, Boeing's Starliner program manager, said
       | 
       | No, it is working exactly as designed, and the design sucks.
        
       | DrStartup wrote:
       | This is a shit article.
       | 
       | Helium leak is in the trunk. They jettison that on return, so
       | only way to debug is to stay at the station for a few a days.
       | Well within parameters.
       | 
       | They are cleared to depart if an emergency.
        
         | aeternum wrote:
         | Found the Boeing exec
        
         | fourteenfour wrote:
         | No doubt, the statements involving timelines are confusingly
         | presented. Departure has been delayed 3 times due to the helium
         | leak testing, earliest they will leave is on June 26th and I
         | think the dock can support the capsule there for 45 days or
         | until July 28th.
        
       | snowwrestler wrote:
       | That is a heck of a clickbait headline. This is a more
       | informative article for folks who are interested:
       | 
       | https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/how-boeings-starlin...
        
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