[HN Gopher] First we shape our social graph, then it shapes us (...
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       First we shape our social graph, then it shapes us (2022)
        
       Author : Curiositry
       Score  : 47 points
       Date   : 2024-06-23 17:24 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | mediumsmart wrote:
       | _the great merit of society is to make one appreciate solitude_
        
       | nico wrote:
       | > Most who grew up to become geniuses, pre-1900, were kept apart
       | from same age peers and raised at home, by tutors or parents
       | 
       | Pretty much all kids are a lot smarter than we acknowledge
       | 
       | Lazlo Polgar believed geniuses are made, not born, and raised his
       | daughters to become chess grandmasters
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3_Polg%C3%A1r
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       | The school system is more of an industrial childcare operation
       | for working parents, than an actual education system for the kids
       | 
       | It's also easy to criticize, and it is very hard for parents to
       | provide good resources and enough attention for the kids to fully
       | develop their potential
        
         | leetrout wrote:
         | > The school system is more of an industrial childcare
         | operation for working parents, than an actual education system
         | for the kids
         | 
         | Bingo. And, as the spouse of a teacher, there's not a lot of
         | hope of that changing any time soon. The pay would have to
         | change... the people currently working would have to be
         | dismissed or, for those introspective and motivated,
         | retrained... never going to happen.
         | 
         | And generally focused on creating followers not thinkers. I
         | really enjoyed "The Coddling of the American Mind"
         | 
         | https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-cod...
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         | https://www.thecoddling.com/
        
         | hobs wrote:
         | Yeah, it was clear they were training us for an industrial work
         | ethic with 40 minute periods with bells moving us from place to
         | place, regimented bathroom and recreational activity, and
         | generally a complete disinterest in learning, just do the
         | homework kid, we don't care and we wont call on you.
        
         | PartiallyTyped wrote:
         | My early childhood is very similar to that of some Field
         | medalists.. and then I went to school and the problems began..
         | between bullying, isolation, and a host of other issues, adult
         | me feels the burden of "potential".
         | 
         | I don't blame my parents for it, they really didn't have much
         | of a choice in the matter as we were too poor for private
         | schools and homeschooling isn't a thing where I come from.
        
       | rustcleaner wrote:
       | I was incessantly mobbed, physically and psychologically,
       | throughout early school with no escape and all cries for rescue
       | rendered impotent... and all I got was this lousy +4 z-score IQ!
       | 
       | I didn't choose the genius life, the genius life chose me. *sob*
        
         | 082349872349872 wrote:
         | Everyone wants to be a genius until it's time to do genius
         | shit.
         | 
         | > _I never sleep, I don 't know why. I had a roommate and I
         | drove her nuts, I mean really nuts, they had to take her away
         | in an ambulance and everything. But she's okay now, but she had
         | to transfer to an easier school, but I don't know if that had
         | anything to do with being my fault. But listen, if you ever
         | need to talk or you need help studying just let me know, 'cause
         | I'm just a couple doors down from you guys and I never sleep,
         | okay?_ --JC
        
       | Veuxdo wrote:
       | > And after a handful of years of hanging about with people more
       | skilled than themselves, our babies--these tiny, soft-skulled
       | creatures--can out-compete chimpanzees in all but close combat.
       | 
       | I don't even want to ask
        
         | jon_richards wrote:
         | Also not accurate. Chimps have extremely powerful numerical
         | working memories. https://www.cell.com/current-
         | biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(07)...
        
       | JohnKemeny wrote:
       | > The milieu around you--which shapes you, and which you shape in
       | turn--we can model as a directed graph. The nodes are people and
       | objects and ideas connected to each other. And the graph is
       | directed because you have nodes that send you input and nodes you
       | send output to.
       | 
       | Then shows a figure of a weirdly symmetric undirected graph that
       | looks nothing like a social or complex network!
        
       | JohnKemeny wrote:
       | Previous submission, no comments:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38776434
        
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