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ECMA-17: Graphical representation of control characters (1968)
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Author : susam
Score : 80 points
Date : 2024-06-22 07:39 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (ecma-international.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (ecma-international.org)
| ggm wrote:
| Didn't catch on. ^C did, mapping to ascii equivalent just worked.
| "Hat" for control key was a winner.
| 9dev wrote:
| That confused me a lot when I started using Linux as a
| teenager. There wasn't really an explanation anywhere, some
| commands would just show ^Something and assume you'd know what
| to do. When I finally figured out, the terminal made a lot more
| sense.
| nikeee wrote:
| I'm curious: Is there still a free copy available from ECMA in
| switzerland? I mean, besides this scanned one. I just love
| printed stuff.
| rbanffy wrote:
| Not sure if free, but they should be able to provide any
| current standard.
| tuukkah wrote:
| Interesting how they didn't use hexadecimal the same way as we do
| today, instead writing e.g. the code position 0x7F as 7/15.
| TheAceOfHearts wrote:
| It would be interesting to read how they decided on these
| specific symbols, or if that knowledge is lost to time. I feel
| like sometimes standards would benefit from including a non-
| normative section explaining a bit more of the reasoning behind
| specific design decisions.
| hetman wrote:
| Apparently this later became ISO 2047 and most of these
| characters are mapped into Unicode (with the exception of a few
| which have reasonable substitutes).
|
| I was wishing for something like this recently so I'm genuinely
| pleased to know this exists.
| rbanffy wrote:
| Which ones aren't? I think I've seen them all in during my work
| with adding legacy characters to Unicode 13 and now 16.
| userbinator wrote:
| These didn't get much use as far as I know (and many computers of
| the 60s still used 6-bit characters and not anything resembling
| ASCII), but I think CP437 became the de-facto representation of
| the low characters for most of the 80s through at least the mid
| 90s.
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| https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Codepage...
| kevin_thibedeau wrote:
| PCs weren't yet a dominant computing platform for most of the
| 80s.
| zeitgeistcowboy wrote:
| Character 7 is still a bell! I always loved that when you printed
| ASCII character 7 on old machines it made a sound instead of
| printing a character.
| qsort wrote:
| Old machines? Type "print(chr(7))" into the latest Python REPL
| and see what happens :)
| teddyh wrote:
| print("\a")
| FabHK wrote:
| A bit of background on those control characters and what they
| mean:
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C0_and_C1_control_codes
| dartos wrote:
| Why have symbolic and alphabetic, I wonder
| proneb1rd wrote:
| TIL. The burger icon (LF) was invented in 1968
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