[HN Gopher] SUSE upgrades its distros with 19 years of support -...
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SUSE upgrades its distros with 19 years of support - no other Linux
comes close
Author : CrankyBear
Score : 34 points
Date : 2024-06-20 20:06 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| repelsteeltje wrote:
| 19 years!!
|
| So imagine - you're relying on some piece of software released
| around 2005. 2.6.10 Linux kernel, ext2 (maybe reiserfs?) TLS is
| called SSL and you're good if your DSA key has 512 bits... This
| essential service your company needs had long been abandoned and
| _all_ attempts to mitigate the imminent disaster have failed.
| (Migrate to competitor, revive the code base, run in a VM)
|
| ... Or some CTO has _seriously_ done a bad job anticipating
| whatever maintenance necessary over last decade.
|
| I appreciate that change is hard sometimes, but maaaan life is so
| much easier if you upgrade/migrate/rebuild every now and then
| with some frequency.
| fffrantz wrote:
| Well, I'm still running critical services on Solaris 10
| everyday and will be running them for the foreseeable future.
| Granted it's on an airtight network, but still, every time I
| see CDE, I'm brought back 15 years ago.
|
| I wish we could migrate to something more modern, but vendor
| lock-in is strong in certain instances, let alone in the
| embedded space.
| yeuxardents wrote:
| Solaris 10 with zones was amazing, I miss it.
| Retric wrote:
| Not everything is online.
|
| If you're operating critical infrastructure like a sewage
| treatment plant sometimes you just want stuff to work as long
| as possible without messing with it.
| jacobgkau wrote:
| The point is that you're probably going to have to mess with
| it eventually, and the amount of work that takes goes up the
| longer you put it off.
|
| If you're talking a completely offline system that's
| basically a utility and doesn't even need security patches,
| then how many years of support the OS provides becomes
| irrelevant, because you theoretically don't need those
| patches anyway.
|
| But if you're concerned with staying "technically up-to-
| date," as in "the vendor says it's supported even though it's
| X years old," then there will almost certainly come a time
| when you reach the end of the line and have to reconcile that
| with everything you didn't keep up with. (It might be after
| you're out of there, though.)
| bawolff wrote:
| > TLS is called SSL
|
| SSL was renamed to TLS in 1999...
| ysofunny wrote:
| I'm thinking I'd actually prefer that for a air-gapped
| industrial control computer.
|
| using USB thumb drives to move csv data into the real world
| where there's internet
| jmclnx wrote:
| Good for them, many companies would want this. Will be
| interesting to see if it helps the Company. If so, I would expect
| others would join.
| philips wrote:
| I started my career on the SUSE kernel team in 2007. And I used
| to joke that I maintained Kernel versions that were released
| before I even started writing kernel code in high school in 2001.
|
| It was really exciting and sort of daunting testing and releasing
| kernels with Ethernet drivers I fixed to European air traffic
| control and stock exchanges.
|
| Anyways. Sort of funny to think maybe code I touched right out of
| college is still in production and just got a life extension.
| ltbarcly3 wrote:
| This is because the companies that still use SUSE are so
| technologically backwards and incompetent that there is no hope
| they can ever upgrade anything, so instead they just keep paying
| SUSE's owners for support and dig the hole deeper.
|
| The last time I saw someone adopting SUSE was around 2007 (and it
| was already a joke), which is 17 years ago... checks out.
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