[HN Gopher] Donald Sutherland has died
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Donald Sutherland has died
Author : toomuchtodo
Score : 179 points
Date : 2024-06-20 18:28 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| toomuchtodo wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Sutherland
|
| https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000661/
| mk_stjames wrote:
| Hey that is interesting - IMDB's name folder is an indexed
| list... ordered by.... ?
|
| nm0000001: Fred Astaire
|
| nm0000002: Lauren Bacall
|
| nm0000003: Brigitte Bardot
|
| nm0000004: John Belushi
|
| nm0000005: Ingmar Bergman
|
| nm0000006: Ingrid Bergman
|
| ... It seems it is alphabetical, based on last name, but the
| first list must have been a very small select list, and then it
| rolls over around 9xx to start another list of people at A, etc
| etc....
|
| I wonder how that database was populated / why that way.
| bcrosby95 wrote:
| Wasn't IMDB originally a hand curated text "database"? That
| might be why.
| Triphibian wrote:
| Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
| gwbennett wrote:
| Exactly the quote I was thinking of! Great movie!
| ravieira wrote:
| Great actor. My favorite movie with him will always be the spooky
| Don't Look Now (1973) with Julie Christie.
|
| Edit: originally had written the year as 1873!
| neogodless wrote:
| That has got to be one of the earliest moving pictures of all
| time! Wow!
|
| /s sorry, think you have a typo!
|
| We're actually partial to 1971's _Klute_ but that 's because of
| an inside family story!
| ravieira wrote:
| Lol, yes
|
| Must be a fun story for sure. One of those movies that come
| to mind when one thinks of NYC in the 70s/post Moses-era
| georgeecollins wrote:
| Phillip Kaufman's remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers..
| hondo77 wrote:
| M*A*S*H. Not for his performance, necessarily. It's just a
| great, fun movie. I'm watching it tonight.
| sumtechguy wrote:
| I am going to go with Kellys Heros.
| panzagl wrote:
| Anyone wanting to watch this movie (which is great) just go
| into it cold. Be warned that there's a pretty extended sex
| scene, but otherwise just go in without expectations.
| ecjhdnc2025 wrote:
| > Be warned that there's a pretty extended sex scene, but
| otherwise just go in without expectations.
|
| I want to push back slightly against the idea that's an
| "extended sex scene", or even that it's a "sex scene" at all.
|
| It's one of the most beautiful sequences in all of cinema --
| a grieving couple rediscovering intimacy and joy. The way it
| is intercut with them dressing, getting ready for dinner, the
| way you can see it brought happiness and affirmation and some
| sense that life is not over and love survived a terrible
| loss. It's central to the entire film: to why they are in
| Venice in the first place, to their commitment to each other,
| to their determined love for each other.
| khazhoux wrote:
| > It's one of the most beautiful sequences in all of cinema
| -- a grieving couple rediscovering intimacy and joy. The
| way it is intercut with them dressing, getting ready for
| dinner, the way you can see it brought happiness and
| affirmation and some sense that life is not over and love
| survived a terrible loss. It's central to the entire film:
| to why they are in Venice in the first place, to their
| commitment to each other, to their determined love for each
| other.
|
| Also known as a "sex scene." And at a full five minutes,
| it's a rather long scene :-)
|
| It's also one of the most notorious sex scenes in cinema
| from that era, with persistent rumors that Sutherland and
| Christie actually were doing the deed.
|
| But I think you wrongly inferred that the commenter was
| trying to dissuade people from watching the movie because
| of it. I interpreted it just as a fair warning, lest you
| think it might be a fun pick for family movie night with
| the kids and grandparents.
| ecjhdnc2025 wrote:
| > Also known as a "sex scene." And at a full five
| minutes, it's a rather long scene :-)
|
| It has almost nothing creatively in common with sex
| scenes in almost any other movie ever made, which are
| usually (lazily, and often misogynistically) used to
| cheaply bond the damsel to the hero.
|
| It's not a sex scene; it is fully and completely a _love_
| scene.
|
| I can think of so few like it.
|
| > It's also one of the most notorious sex scenes in
| cinema from that era, with persistent rumors that
| Sutherland and Christie actually were doing the deed.
|
| Persistent, infantile, somewhat misogynistic rumours.
| bhickey wrote:
| Incredible that his career spanned 60+ years. When I saw him in
| _The Dirty Dozen_ it must've already been thirty years old.
|
| This got me curious about who had the longest career in
| Hollywood. Mickey Rooney came in near the top at 90 years. [0]
|
| [0] https://www.imdb.com/list/ls058627770/
| imzadi wrote:
| Don't Look Now is one of my favorite movies! So weird and
| spooky.
| tannhaeuser wrote:
| _Don 't Look Now_ is one of those unforgettable 1970s movies so
| ahead of their time, along with _The Marathon Man_ and very few
| others. And it 's spooky indeed, hard to bear if you've got a
| child. RIP
| should-b-wrkng wrote:
| One of my favorites of his is when he portrayed the protagonist's
| father in the point-and-click DOS game "KGB: Conspiracy"
|
| http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/kgb-conspiracy-starring-don...
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB_(video_game)
| netsharc wrote:
| I think it's how I learned of him, when my dad bought me a 486
| with CD-ROM, and some games on CDs in the 90's. That game even
| had footage of the 1991 coup attempt:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUuiNcJKY4s
| Kye wrote:
| Bluesky feed for remembrances:
| https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:qrllvid7s54k4hnwtqxwetrf/fe...
| arp242 wrote:
| Don't worry, they made a copy of him just for this sort of
| eventuality.
| aliasxneo wrote:
| I'm younger, so my first introduction to him was Hunger Games,
| and that's where I started following him as an actor. A great
| career all around. Was happy to see him in Bass Reeves, but sad
| to know that was his last piece (if IMDB is accurate).
| major505 wrote:
| To me the 2 movies that defined him was the remake of Invasion of
| The Body Snatchers (that scene on the end still hunts me) and The
| Eye OF the Needle, where he interprets a German Spy called Fabber
| that discovery about Operation Double Cross and tries to reach a
| german U-Boat with the info.
| gumby wrote:
| Eye of the needle was one of those rare twofers: a very good
| book and a very good movie.
| RJSquirel wrote:
| Looks like the movie is free on amazon prime right now.
| KineticLensman wrote:
| Yep, that final scene is soul-searing
| itronitron wrote:
| His voice is I think one of the most distinctive in movies. If
| you like being haunted by scenes from slow-burn horror movies
| then I can recommend The Broken (2008) with Lena Headey.
| jays wrote:
| As a kid, I watched Kelly's Heroes whenever it was on TV and
| loved him in it.
|
| It was a joy to see him in so many movies throughout the years.
| He always elevated everything he was in. Great actor.
| KineticLensman wrote:
| See comment elsewhere about 'negative waves'.
|
| I also loved him in Kelly's Heroes, which sadly isn't mentioned
| in the obits I've seen so far.
| skhunted wrote:
| Kelly's Heroes is one of the best war movies in my opinion.
| He played Oddball very well. Oddball's line about how his
| commander was trying to get them killed since Normandy
| resonated with me.
|
| My dad was an infantryman in World War 2 in the European
| Theater of Operations. His war book had a lot dead listed in
| it. He underlined the ones he knew. One was a lieutenant. I
| asked my dad about the lieutenant and my dad's response was,
| "He was a West Point asshole."
|
| Being in a war doesn't make one a hero. Mostly you are
| fighting because you have to and your goal is for you and
| your buddies to survive.
| jaggederest wrote:
| "We got our own ammunition, it's filled with paint. When we
| fire it, it makes... pretty pictures. Scares the hell out of
| people"
| garrettgarcia wrote:
| It's mentioned in this one.
| dang wrote:
| I liked him playing Wilhelm Reich (with a dash of Einstein) in
| Kate Bush's 'Cloudbusting'. A masterpiece of nonverbal
| performance.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw
| whalesalad wrote:
| The first movie I really remember seeing him in was Virus. By all
| accounts it is a pretty bad movie, but I liked it a lot as a kid
| and it scared the crap out of me.
|
| https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120458/
| spacecadet wrote:
| Holy cow someone else who has seen Virus... what a bad but good
| sci-fi flick, and gross!
| whalesalad wrote:
| I might need to watch it again tonight.
| alexjplant wrote:
| _Wow_... I literally haven't thought of this movie in 25
| years. I saw a bunch of trailers for it on TV as a kid and
| thought it looked cool but never got around to seeing it as I
| wasn't nearly old enough and forgot about it since. I might
| have to give this a watch tonight and close the file on it.
| francisofascii wrote:
| My favorite is him as Bill Bowerman in Without Limits (1998)
| pdonis wrote:
| I liked his role as the pyromaniac in Backdraft.
| wdwvt1 wrote:
| I came here to post this - he was perfect for that role. He and
| Robert De Niro played off each other so well.
| gwern wrote:
| Was briefly concerned until I saw it wasn't _Ivan_ Sutherland:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Sutherland
| karaterobot wrote:
| The first image I have of Donald Sutherland is his character in
| _The Great Train Robbery_ , which I think is a mostly forgotten
| movie which, for some reason, I was obsessed with as a teenager.
| Later, _MASH_ and _Kelly 's Heroes_, of course. He'll be missed,
| but his enormous catalog is a testament to his versatility.
| ethbr1 wrote:
| Second the recommendation. Excellent movie, and excellently
| played by Sutherland opposite Connery.
|
| Interestingly enough, I think _The Great Train Robbery_ may
| have been one of the first Michael Crichton books adapted to
| film? https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0079240/ (check: nope,
| preceded by both Westworld and Andromeda Strain)
|
| I went on a jog through historical heist films, and there's
| some amazing older stuff, e.g. _Rififi_ (1955).
| nanna wrote:
| Confused him with Ivan Sutherland and got very sad for a moment.
|
| Don't know who Donald Sutherland is.
| pentagrama wrote:
| I find it odd that I don't recall ever watching a movie with
| Donald Sutherland. MASH is one of the few Robert Altman films I
| still need to watch, so here we go.
| lawlessone wrote:
| Only one I can recall is Hunger games. But he looked familiar
| in those so i am sure there are others.
| lsllc wrote:
| I think "The Eagle Has Landed" is my all time favorite Donald
| Sutherland movie.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eagle_Has_Landed_(film)
| tracker1 wrote:
| I've seen him in a few movies, often as an extra. One of my favs
| has to be "Space Cowboys" ... will probably (re)watch MASH and
| Space Cowboys this weekend in remembrance.
| 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
| Gotta watch M*A*S*H tonight with a martini that's drier than the
| Sahara Desert.
| OldSchool wrote:
| "Six Degrees of Separation" with Donald Sutherland and Will Smith
| was the first relatively arthouse movie I saw and it introduced
| me to the genre.
| riffraff wrote:
| It's a great little gem, especially since it came out when Will
| Smith was near the peak of his "pop" persona, while the movie
| is definitely not.
| lrc wrote:
| The brief appearance in Animal House is a little gem.
| ltbarcly3 wrote:
| Love Donald Sutherland, sad to see him go.
|
| That said, I think this is the signal that it's time to walk away
| from HN. It used to be a place for people to talk about
| technology, business, tech startups, and SV culture. Now it's
| celebrity news.
|
| Bye!
| dang wrote:
| HN has always had a wider range of content than people tend to
| assume it has, and that's by design--when pg renamed it from
| "Startup News" to "Hacker News", that was the reason:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html.
|
| For example, we had this thread 3 weeks after your account was
| created: _RIP Michael Jackson_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=674438 - June 2009 (158
| comments)
|
| And of course the "How is this even remotely hacker news?"
| question was already in full swing back then:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=674461
|
| In other words, twere ever thus!
|
| This approach only works as long as no one class of story is
| over-represented to the point of being predictable, but that's
| ok because evading predictability is one of the core values of
| the site:
|
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
|
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
| ltbarcly3 wrote:
| This is my 3rd account, my 1st was made like a month after
| yours.
|
| Ahh yes, Donald Sutherland, never did a Startup but of course
| he was a notable Hacker. And of course his impact on world
| culture was right up there with Michael Jackson.
|
| I find your attempt to defend the trajectory of the site very
| convincing and I withdrawal my criticism. Lets get more
| celebrity news up on the front page, like it used to be...
| The fact that there was one article about Michael Jackson
| within a few months of when I created my 3rd account is
| absolutely evidence of whatever point you are making.
|
| I mean just look at all the articles about celebrities and
| politics and social policy: https://web.archive.org/web/20091
| 207051053/http://news.ycomb...
|
| VS the frontpage RIGHT NOW, which does not have even one
| single article about programming, and very few about
| technology even in the broadest sense.
| washywashy wrote:
| He's very good in backdraft
| W-Stool wrote:
| Donald Sutherland as "Hawkeye Pierce" in M.A.S.H. made such an
| impression on when I saw this movie on its release as a very
| young teenager. I've pretty much never got along with authority
| since.
|
| RIP Donald Sutherland.
| devonnull wrote:
| Even in his appearances in not-so-great movies you could tell
| Sutherland was trying to rise above the material. Actually, I got
| that impression of him from all of the really good (or just good)
| movies he was in. Not to mention all of the TV he did, too.
| Really enjoyed his turn in an episode of The Avengers called "The
| Superlative Seven".
| agumonkey wrote:
| Saw him recently in 'A time to kill'. Great presence as always.
| Somehow he's always been a great addition to any movie cast.
| optimalsolver wrote:
| Pillars Of The Earth, anyone?
| optimalsolver wrote:
| Also, his great one scene appearance as "X" in Oliver Stone's
| JFK.
| DaveExeter wrote:
| I'm feeling some negative waves.
|
| https://youtu.be/ncbEucjsNFU?t=73
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