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SUSE Offers Lifeline to Stranded CentOS Users with Liberty Linux
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Author : CrankyBear
Score : 44 points
Date : 2024-06-19 20:20 UTC (1 days ago)
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| donmcronald wrote:
| > $25 per server/instance per year
|
| Yes!
|
| > with a minimum $2,500 investment required
|
| Noooo! Why does it always seem like the tech industry hates small
| businesses?
| pkaye wrote:
| Maybe someone can clone this repo and give it to everyone else
| for free since it's open source software?
| yayr wrote:
| if you want a free version of the Suse stack there is leap
| https://get.opensuse.org/leap
|
| I think for personal use or very small businesses that should
| be good enough.
|
| It is also quite straightforward to switch between leap and
| SLES and back if you decide to switch your support setup.
| brnt wrote:
| Leap is a dead end though.
| atiedebee wrote:
| How so? 15.6 was just released
| brnt wrote:
| It was released after community pushback on 15.5 being
| the last.
|
| Then they are now calling something Leap 16, but it hasnt
| much tot do with Leap: https://www.theregister.com/2024/0
| 1/17/opensuse_confirms_lea...
| yayr wrote:
| It seems that SUSE wants to shift its enterprise offering
| to ALP (adaptable linux platform) instead of the legacy
| SLE platform to better support modern workloads.
| https://www.suse.com/c/suse-salp-raises-the-bar-on-
| confident...
|
| it makes sense to then also shift the open source stream
| in that direction, which is happening with Leap 16.
| practicemaths wrote:
| How is $2,500 not a reasonable expense for a small business?
| BenjiWiebe wrote:
| $2,500 is a lot of money. 50 hours at $50/hour. Plenty
| (most?) small business owners aren't making $50 per hour.
| practicemaths wrote:
| Is this a one time expense or continuously yearly?
|
| The pricing description in the article wasn't making that
| clear to me.
|
| Regardless, $2500 is more than reasonable write off expense
| for startup costs in almost any sector a "small-business"
| may operate in.
|
| 100k is more than a believable amount of revenue for a
| small business to have.
| Suppafly wrote:
| The problem is that many people hear small business and
| assume it's like 1-10 employees, but really small
| business is anything up to ~500 employees and millions in
| revenue.
| sealeck wrote:
| It's a lot more servers than a business would need?
| practicemaths wrote:
| "Pricing starts at a reasonable $25 per server/instance per
| year, with a minimum $2,500 investment required."
|
| So is it 100 server minimum or is it $2,500 upfront plus
| $25 per year after that for a single server/instance?
| adamomada wrote:
| Right now it's $2500/year unless you have more than 100
| servers, each server thereafter would be $25 on top of
| $2500.
|
| It's most likely because the costs of doing any business
| with other businesses isn't worth it with a $25 minimum.
|
| I hope they get some feedback and reduce the minimum, but
| I completely understand the rationale.
| wpm wrote:
| Because it's 100x more than what a small business probably
| needs (one server instance per year)?
|
| Why pay $2500 for a lot of things you don't need to get
| access to one when you could just pay for the one for $25?
| practicemaths wrote:
| Are you saying that $2500 is an unreasonable amount for a
| small business to invest in itself or let alone within
| startup costs?
|
| If I started a tow-truck company, that would be a small
| business. I would also expect to invest more than $2500
| into my tow-truck.
|
| I trust a tangible analogy should be sufficient to get my
| point across.
| gabrielgio wrote:
| > Are you saying that $2500 is an unreasonable amount for
| a small business to invest in itself or let alone within
| startup costs?
|
| No, he is saying that is too much money to spend on
| something you don't need.
| practicemaths wrote:
| A price conscious consumer will not purchase this then.
|
| I am confused at what the issue here is then.
|
| The business presumably set their price for their target
| audience. If that price is too high then you are not the
| target audience.
| gabrielgio wrote:
| > Why does it always seem like the tech industry hates
| small businesses?
|
| They is venting/complaining about SUSE not caring about
| small companies. That is it.
| donmcronald wrote:
| I'm talking about small owner operated businesses. A lot
| of them will compete with owner absent franchises that
| are set up to make $30-50k per year. So the owner can
| draw that, plus the salary of one employee. Often that
| puts their salary around $100k.
|
| $2500 is what a lot of them would be looking to spend on
| a firewall, switch, and AP (total) which would have a 5
| year lifecycle. They'll have one or two VMs on a single
| server. So it ends up being $2500 for a single "server"
| (VM) if they need Linux for something.
|
| The tech industry is out of touch with the small business
| world and it's getting worse.
| neverartful wrote:
| That's probably not a good example. The odds of an tow-
| truck owner/operator needing to setup a linux server is
| pretty low. I exited the tech industry and now run a
| handyman service and even I probably wouldn't pay those
| fees.
| neverartful wrote:
| Big corporations have a ton of dead weight that they have to
| pay for somehow.
| junaru wrote:
| Whats so special about Centos 7? Just migrate to Almalinux and
| elevate up to 9 [1]. The only big difference that comes to mind
| is openssl3.
|
| [1] https://wiki.almalinux.org/elevate/ELevating-CentOS7-to-
| Alma...
| tchbnl wrote:
| Ignoring that I've never heard of this site, this "news" article
| is just a straight up ad. Might as well find a direct link from
| SUSE at this point.
| e12e wrote:
| Yes:
|
| https://www.suse.com/news/New-suse-liberty-linux-lite/
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