[HN Gopher] Lnav Logfile Navigator
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       Lnav Logfile Navigator
        
       Author : alexzeitler
       Score  : 136 points
       Date   : 2024-06-17 09:42 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (lnav.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (lnav.org)
        
       | mgoetzke wrote:
       | I just found this tool a few days ago using GPT-4o looking for a
       | better way to navigate and search logs. I did try it now and it
       | looks great.
       | 
       | The histogram view could be improved to use a highlighted center
       | line instead of the top line, but its quite helpful (once you
       | read about SHIFT-I)
        
       | kalev wrote:
       | LNAV is great, i'm so happy to have found it recently.
       | 
       | I've made a Caddy server lnav configuration file a while a go,
       | for who's struggling to parse the default JSON logs produced by
       | Caddy.
       | 
       | https://gist.github.com/vjanssens/3c6fb8393d87346323d939f172...
        
       | terminaltrove wrote:
       | lnav is awesome, we recently featured it as tool of the week at
       | terminal trove (1)
       | 
       | You can also install it on your system (2) to try it out or you
       | can quickly demo it via SSH which is super cool!
       | 
       | ssh playground@demo.lnav.org
       | 
       | 1. https://terminaltrove.com/tool-of-the-week/
       | 
       | 2. https://terminaltrove.com/lnav/
        
       | evanjrowley wrote:
       | Is there something like this that's lightweight and works well on
       | (non-WSL) Windows?
       | 
       | I have Windows Servers with tools that create text-based logs and
       | it would be nice to have something that could tail them.
        
         | achoice wrote:
         | Baretail is what I have used allot. Really old but works good.
         | Like the simple config to color lines.
         | https://www.baremetalsoft.com/baretail/
        
         | tstack wrote:
         | LogViewPlus (https://www.logviewplus.com) is very similar to
         | lnav and built for Windows.
        
         | rileytg wrote:
         | notepad++ is great for log files. it handles massive files with
         | ease. I wish it ran on non win systems...
        
         | nix0n wrote:
         | If you just want old-school `tail` and `less` you can get them
         | with Cygwin.
         | 
         | These don't support multi-file or highlighting like `lnav`
         | does, but even on top of Cygwin they're very lightweight.
        
       | justusthane wrote:
       | lnav is something I keep coming back to over and over really
       | _wanting_ to like, but I've never managed to figure it out. I'm
       | not sure exactly what the problem is, but I find the docs
       | confusing and incomplete, and I always end up getting stuck and
       | going back to Vim and/or VisiData.
       | 
       | Does anyone have any good tutorials or resources apart from the
       | official ones?
        
         | tstack wrote:
         | I'm the author of lnav .. and not a very good writer,
         | apologies.
         | 
         | I guess my main question would be, what are you expecting to
         | get out of lnav? I use it primarily for merging log files
         | together and just jumping around trying to understand what was
         | happening. It has a bunch of other functionality, like using
         | SQL for analysis, but that's not something I use regularly.
         | 
         | Really, a lot of the benefits of lnav are automatic, like
         | uncompressing files, detecting log formats, tailing... So, if
         | that's not something that comes up for you, it might just not
         | be the tool for you.
         | 
         | I actually have this "not getting it" problem with
         | VisiData/multitail. I start them up and they don't behave like
         | I would expect when pressing hotkeys.
        
           | justusthane wrote:
           | > I start them up and they don't behave like I would expect
           | when pressing hotkeys
           | 
           | That's funny, because that's been my experience with lnav!
           | Not saying there's anything wrong with it though.
           | 
           | It's been a while since last time I tried it so I don't
           | recall the exact stumbling blocks I ran into, but I think it
           | was mostly around hotkeys not doing what I expected, lnav not
           | recognizing log types I think it should have (Apache/Tomcat),
           | and not correctly loading custom log parsers.
           | 
           | If you don't mind next time I try it I can give you more
           | concrete info.
        
             | tstack wrote:
             | > That's funny, because that's been my experience with
             | lnav! Not saying there's anything wrong with it though.
             | 
             | I tried to use the hotkeys from less/more/vim so that it
             | would be somewhat familiar. I think people are frequently
             | tripped up if files are not recognized as a log and just
             | treated as text. Files treated as plain text are separated
             | from log files, so it can be a bit confusing. Not entirely
             | sure how to improve the experience there.
             | 
             | > lnav not recognizing log types I think it should have
             | (Apache/Tomcat)
             | 
             | There are quite a few log formats builtin. But, since log
             | output formats can be customized by admins, it's possible
             | they deviate from the builtin ones and things won't "just
             | work".
             | 
             | > not correctly loading custom log parsers
             | 
             | I've tried to improve error messages a bunch[1] and make it
             | easier to trouble shoot configuration issues[2]. I'm sure
             | more could be done, I just don't quite know what folks are
             | tripping over without feedback.
             | 
             | > If you don't mind next time I try it I can give you more
             | concrete info.
             | 
             | Feel free to file github issues or email support@lnav.org
             | 
             | [1] - https://lnav.org/2022/08/04/pretty-errors.html
             | 
             | [2] - https://lnav.org/2023/08/04/config-dump.html
        
               | ttyprintk wrote:
               | You're too modest. I wrote a custom format correctly on
               | the first try; CouchDB. Keys are chosen rationally.
               | People won't care about SQL until they realize that the
               | later lnav versions allow `;select * from access_log
               | where 0x00 in decode(log_body, 'base64')`
        
           | pinkorchid wrote:
           | Thanks for writing lnav, it's a fantastic tool. I constantly
           | take advantage of the automatic benefits you mentioned, and
           | also love the ability to navigate a log minute by minute,
           | interleave multiple logs within the same timeline, navigate
           | through errors or warnings, and how easy it is to deal with
           | spammy logs by using filter-in and filter-out. Thanks!
        
         | gregopet wrote:
         | it's worth it just for the navigation helpers alone: '2' will
         | bring you to the next 20-minute-after-the-hour entry (pressing
         | again takes you to the next hour+20 minutes, same for the other
         | 0-5 numbers). E will bring you to the next error, W to the next
         | warning. And O will take you to the next entry with the same
         | correlation ID (request/session/whatever .. you define it). And
         | adding shift to all those keys reverses the direction. And
         | naturally we're just scratching the surface.
         | 
         | I recently started appreciating lnav with JSON logs, where you
         | can recreate a normal log-like experience by picking fields
         | that are displayed (but you can still press a key to see all
         | the JSON fields when you need them). I do wish there was
         | support for switching formats so I could switch between
         | different "views" over the same data, maybe it will be possible
         | someday :)
         | 
         | lnav was a godsend with a particular project several years ago
         | where we had a server bombarded with IOT messages and had to
         | create some order from all the chaos. I actually went and
         | donated some money to the project then, it really made my life
         | easier.
        
       | __bax wrote:
       | Best log tool !
        
       | jldugger wrote:
       | It's still just looking at one server right? If you have a fleet
       | of webservers, or microservices in containers, ELK or similar
       | seems like a requirement.
        
         | tstack wrote:
         | Pretty much, yes, it's not for dealing with a bunch of servers.
         | 
         | There's some basic support for tailing files on remote x86
         | machines (https://lnav.org/2021/05/03/tailing-remote-
         | files.html). But, again, just small scale stuff.
         | 
         | I use it on my development machine and for going through logs
         | attached to bugs. Those use cases aren't served by something
         | like ELK/splunk/etc.
        
       | piterrro wrote:
       | For anyone looking for a similar tool but with a Web UI I
       | recommend taking a look at Logdy (https://logdy.dev/,
       | https://github.com/logdyhq/logdy-core) Ps: I'm the author
        
         | iudqnolq wrote:
         | That's interesting. Would it be possible to embed it in a go
         | program to have an easy way of visualizing logs out of the box?
        
           | piterrro wrote:
           | not yet, but its one of the items on my roadmap
        
         | zX41ZdbW wrote:
         | Thank you, that's interesting. A small feedback about the
         | website - it uses the "Space Mono" font for the installation
         | snippet - it is a monospace font, but surprisingly, it
         | collapses "fi" into a ligature, making the font subtly and
         | weirdly non-monospace. This is wrong.
        
       | dr_kiszonka wrote:
       | Would anyone have a recommendation for a log mining / analysis
       | tool? I am particularly interested in automated identification of
       | message sequences across multiple users, but anything beyond a
       | simple log browser would be helpful. (I work with hundreds of GBs
       | of Logcat logs.)
        
       | chrisweekly wrote:
       | I've been singing lnav's praises ever since I first discovered it
       | back in... 2016?
        
       | flusensieb wrote:
       | Not a CLI tool, but I recently started using
       | https://klogg.filimonov.dev/ klogg (which seems to be a successor
       | of glogg) more and more often.
        
       | synergy20 wrote:
       | I ended up using vim for log files, it recognizes messages and
       | log files and highlight them automatically and I can also edit
       | them if needed.
        
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