[HN Gopher] Where did you go, Ms. Pac-Man?
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       Where did you go, Ms. Pac-Man?
        
       Author : glhaynes
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2024-06-17 20:02 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | busterarm wrote:
       | In the words of one Johnny Blue
       | Jeans...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqZo3pC6h68
        
       | AdmiralAsshat wrote:
       | I never noticed that none of the official art for Ms. Pac-Man
       | includes her beauty mark, which is kinda key to the sprite. It's
       | the only thing that distinguishes her from regular Pac-Man other
       | than the bow.
        
         | happyopossum wrote:
         | > It's the only thing that distinguishes her from regular Pac-
         | Man other than the bow.
         | 
         | And the lips, and the eyes. Literally everything except the
         | yellow partial circle is differentiated.
        
         | toast0 wrote:
         | She's got one in the marquee. But not the side art. But it's a
         | lot better than the original Pac Man art.
        
           | Tao3300 wrote:
           | Love the side and base art. It's got such a cabaret vibe.
           | Like the ghosts were supposed to be carrying her but at the
           | last minute they decided to switch the arms to be neutral.
        
       | johnchristopher wrote:
       | Totally OT but: Godverdomme, why can't I right click those images
       | of vintage ads :((((.
        
         | waltbosz wrote:
         | I hate when that happens.
         | 
         | Run this code in your JS console to get an array of the urls to
         | the 3 ads.                 Array.from(document.querySelectorAll
         | ('img')).map(o=>o.src).filter(o=>o.includes('flyer'))
         | 
         | Or this to get the urls of all the images.
         | Array.from(document.querySelectorAll('img')).map(o=>o.src)
        
       | masswerk wrote:
       | My favorite variant is probably Pac-Gal [1] (a hack from 1981,
       | sometimes also attributed Uchida, 1982) - it doesn't get more
       | '80s than this.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.gamesdatabase.org/game/arcade/pac-gal
        
       | toast0 wrote:
       | > After all, this would be like if Nintendo re-released a Super
       | Mario game and swapped out Princess Peach for a Princess
       | Pineapple or Princess Pumpkin and just acted like it wasn't
       | weird.
       | 
       | Yeah, that'd be weird, but swapping Princess Peach for Princess
       | Toadstool was fine?
        
         | entropicdrifter wrote:
         | Mario 64 attempted to bridge this gap. Her last name is
         | Toadstool (or maybe it's her title?) and her first name is
         | Peach.
         | 
         | What really happened, IIRC is that she was Princess Peach in
         | the Japanese games and in the original translations they called
         | her Princess Toadstool
        
           | NeoTar wrote:
           | Very much like Dr Robotnik (western) becoming Dr. Eggman
           | (Japanese) in Sonic titles since the late 90's. In this case
           | Eggman is played as an offensive nickname Sonic has given Dr.
           | Robotnik.
        
         | NeoTar wrote:
         | I believe that in Mario lore they are explicitly the same
         | character - either her name is "Peach Toadstool" (i.e. its
         | surname and first name), or the Princess Toadstool is a title -
         | like how the Prince of Wales, Queen Mother, and Princess Royal
         | are all titles in the contemporary British monarchy.
        
           | kibwen wrote:
           | _" In Japan, her name has always been Princess Peach (pichiJi
           | Pichi-hime), but in the West, she was originally known as
           | "Princess Toadstool", due to Nintendo of America renaming her
           | when localizing Super Mario Bros., feeling that "Peach" was
           | irrelevant to the theme of the Mushroom Kingdom."_
           | 
           | https://www.mariowiki.com/Princess_Peach#Name
        
         | dragontamer wrote:
         | Mario saves Pauline in Donkey Kong / original game, and Pauline
         | didn't come back into mainstream Mario games until Super Mario
         | Odyssey (2017).
         | 
         | Princess Toadstool / Princess Peach seem to be the same
         | character, much like Bowser / King Koopa, or Dr. Eggman vs Dr.
         | Robotnik. The strange changing of names over the years has
         | happened to other characters, but I think in-game cannon is
         | that Princess Peach truly is Princess Toadstool.
         | 
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         | 
         | Still, with Princess Rosalina in Super Mario Galaxy, I'd say
         | that Mario has definitely tried the "Princess Swap" move
         | already.
         | 
         | Or really... Pauline was already swapped out for Princess
         | Toadstool.
        
           | NeoTar wrote:
           | Pauline comes back in Super Mario Odyssey as the mayor of New
           | Donk city.
           | 
           | And the Super Mario Land (Gameboy) series introduced Princess
           | Daisy as a potential love interest- she's now a mainstay of
           | the series and often romantically linked with Luigi.
        
           | Dwedit wrote:
           | Donkey Kong '94 (Game Boy) brought back Pauline.
           | 
           | Donkey Kong '94 is also about as close as you can get to
           | being a Mario Game without actually being considered a Mario
           | Game.
        
       | jmull wrote:
       | Ms. was a better game.
        
       | crawsome wrote:
       | The Drawn Together reference in the article was totally
       | unexpected but welcome.
        
       | egypturnash wrote:
       | Huh. I feel like a Ms Pac-Man/Galaga multigame in the corner of a
       | laundromat or restaurant is really the most common way for anyone
       | to run into Pac-Man now, and yet here's Namco trying to retcon
       | her out of existence.
        
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